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Old 11-12-10, 09:48 AM
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hey guys ive been thinking for a long time and i just cant make up my mind i want to either rebuild my motor n stay NA n see how much hp i can get from tht ( anyone know?) or go ***** out buy a t2 motor stage 2/3 rebuild n upgrade turbo with an aem engine mangement system. the thing is all this sounds great to me but ive never built a car before ( having a friend/ mechanic help me with motor swap ) and i just dont know what i shud do. i love going fast n drifting i want to get good enough to qualify for d1. i currently have a NA 91 fc and i am fully aware of what will have to be done for the swap just dont know if i should max out this motors potentially and save going for 500hp later on i got a second job just for my car so im pretty serious about it lol any input would be great thanks
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500hp is an overkill in an FC.

JDM Turbo swap is what I would recommend. I would recommend saving your rebuild & porting monies and invest them into the JDM engine.

Just my $0.02
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if u wanna drift with the 86's then na would be fine if u wanna make tire smoke and go stupid fast drifting like they do in "professional drifting" best go for alot of hp. up to u if u wanna do drifting with alot of style u don't need alot of hp just skill. off topic u ever see snookie?
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Originally Posted by durtled
if u wanna drift with the 86's then na would be fine if u wanna make tire smoke and go stupid fast drifting like they do in "professional drifting" best go for alot of hp. up to u if u wanna do drifting with alot of style u don't need alot of hp just skill. off topic u ever see snookie?
yaa i know thts wat makes me want to stay NA i hate forumla drift cuz its all just **** ton of hp i like d1 cuz not all of em are like that n snookie from jersey shore? lol ya i have

Originally Posted by LunchboxCritter
500hp is an overkill in an FC.

JDM Turbo swap is what I would recommend. I would recommend saving your rebuild & porting monies and invest them into the JDM engine.

Just my $0.02
j-spec swap a pull n drop like the 13b to 13bt? ive done some research n some people say tht theres no advantage to the jspec swap they both end up with equal potenial
Old 11-12-10, 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Rickyyp
Hey guys! I've been thinking for a long time and I just cant make up my mind. I want to either rebuild my motor and stay NA and see how much horsepower I can get from that ( anyone know?), or go ***** out buy a TII motor, stage 2/3 rebuild, and upgrade turbo with an AEM engine management system.

The thing is, all this sounds great to me but I've never built a car before (having a friend/mechanic help me with motor swap), and I just don't know what I should do. I love going fast and drifting. I want to get good enough to qualify for D1. I currently have an NA 91 FC and I am fully aware of what will have to be done for the swap, I just don't know if I should max out this motor's potential and save going for 500hp later on. I got a second job just for my car so I'm pretty serious about it, lol.

Any input would be great, thanks!
If you want power, go with the stronger drivetrain first (TII). Otherwise, you'll spend a whole lot of money on an NA motor that you won't be happy with. The same amount of money put into a turbo motor will net much more power.

But really I just wanted to retype post.
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I own a N/A and have been keeping tabs on what people are doing with them. 200 at the wheels seems to be the upper limit. Think hard and long befor doing a "JDM" swap. it has been coverd, and the only main diff between the JDM and USDM is one of the cats is missing on the JDM, but no real power gains. JDM engines also have a bad habbit of showing up DOA, not all but it is really common to get a blown rotary from japan. Also the TII drive train swap has been coverd many times, its a trade off with an N/A. your adding about 150 Lbs of weight, on the other hand, people (I think Mr. Cake is one of them) have used the N/A transmission for pretty long periods of time with a turbo swap. just food for thought, and get ready to hear a bunch of N/A's suck and just dump the N/A for turbo, lots of poeple say its no wise to spend the time and money on a n/a, but i kinda like seeing hoped up N/A's
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Originally Posted by KrazyRX-7
I own a N/A and have been keeping tabs on what people are doing with them. 200 at the wheels seems to be the upper limit. Think hard and long befor doing a "JDM" swap. it has been coverd, and the only main diff between the JDM and USDM is one of the cats is missing on the JDM, but no real power gains. JDM engines also have a bad habbit of showing up DOA, not all but it is really common to get a blown rotary from japan. Also the TII drive train swap has been coverd many times, its a trade off with an N/A. your adding about 150 Lbs of weight, on the other hand, people (I think Mr. Cake is one of them) have used the N/A transmission for pretty long periods of time with a turbo swap. just food for thought, and get ready to hear a bunch of N/A's suck and just dump the N/A for turbo, lots of poeple say its no wise to spend the time and money on a n/a, but i kinda like seeing hoped up N/A's
200 at wheels is good i mean thts like a stock t2 right ? i like the idea of staying NA because of all the fcs out there that immediatly swap to t2 only thing is i was hoping for something in the range of 250 hp with my NA seems unrealistic? :/ and ya if i do go with a swap i will be sending it to rebuild the motor before it even gets to my house so im not too worried bout blown motors .. i like seeing NAs get sidewayss
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Don't let anyone talk you into doing a turbo swap if thats not what you want to do. You can pretty good horsepower, while sacrificing some reliability with porting, when coupled with plenty of other supporting mods. I'd look into that if you want to stay N/A.

Proper tuning is mandatory.
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Originally Posted by Hazard15301
Don't let anyone talk you into doing a turbo swap if thats not what you want to do. You can pretty good horsepower, while sacrificing some reliability with porting, when coupled with plenty of other supporting mods. I'd look into that if you want to stay N/A.

Proper tuning is mandatory.
how much u think id be able to get outta NA ~250?
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250hp possible but not easy nor cheap.

i drift with a 4port na with like 90hp. i slide it just fine, just depends on skill and suspension parts. but i could use more power, then again anyone could use more power lol

imo i say drift the **** out of that na motor while you save up for a t2 or ls swap. simple as that.
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Originally Posted by iani1.1
250hp possible but not easy nor cheap.

i drift with a 4port na with like 90hp. i slide it just fine, just depends on skill and suspension parts. but i could use more power, then again anyone could use more power lol

imo i say drift the **** out of that na motor while you save up for a t2 or ls swap. simple as that.
yaa so far thats my plan lol
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when talking about drifting or sliding, the second gen's are ***-happy cars, turbo or non. i can get my busted *** N/A to slide around at will, when driving N/A, driver skill will get you into a decent slide, ditch the cats, get a good spring/shock or coil over system(coils are better!), keep the rev's in the upper part of the Tach and your do great! turbo is not needed to drift. Yes, you could get 250 at the wheels, but you wont "Need" that, if you can get some small bolt on's maby a small street port you'll have plenty of power for drift. IMO Drift is about driver control, not who has the most HP N/A FTW! Best of luck
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Originally Posted by Rickyyp
j-spec swap a pull n drop like the 13b to 13bt? ive done some research n some people say tht theres no advantage to the jspec swap they both end up with equal potenial
JDM wasn't a suggestion for more power. I simply wasn't sure if your car is an S4 or S5.

If it's an S5 then it's unlikely that you'll find a USDM S5 swap to put in it, as only something like 2% of the S5's imported into the US were turbo. All of the S5's in Japan were turbo.
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Originally Posted by LunchboxCritter
JDM wasn't a suggestion for more power. I simply wasn't sure if your car is an S4 or S5.

If it's an S5 then it's unlikely that you'll find a USDM S5 swap to put in it, as only something like 2% of the S5's imported into the US were turbo. All of the S5's in Japan were turbo.
oh okay yeah i understand now i read bout tht before thanks man i got an s5 n it just hit me tht the sites i looked at for my motor were all jdm :/ lol

Originally Posted by KrazyRX-7
when talking about drifting or sliding, the second gen's are ***-happy cars, turbo or non. i can get my busted *** N/A to slide around at will, when driving N/A, driver skill will get you into a decent slide, ditch the cats, get a good spring/shock or coil over system(coils are better!), keep the rev's in the upper part of the Tach and your do great! turbo is not needed to drift. Yes, you could get 250 at the wheels, but you wont "Need" that, if you can get some small bolt on's maby a small street port you'll have plenty of power for drift. IMO Drift is about driver control, not who has the most HP N/A FTW! Best of luck
yaaa thats true ive been practicing n ive been getting the feel for it part of the reason i dont want to go t2 is because i dont want to get sucked in to the hp number game lol but i do want alil something more
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