2nd Generation Specific (1986-1992) 1986-1992 Discussion including performance modifications and technical support sections.
Sponsored by:

need help asap

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 10-20-08, 11:38 AM
  #1  
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
88 rx7 drh's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: utah
Posts: 38
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Angry need help asap

i have an 88 convert and it has 0 compression in like 2 or three. so i went and got a used 13b with a trans and the guy said he kept up on turning it over tell about three monthes ago and i brought it home and i was turning it over and it was going ok and just stoped. the plugs have some rust on em. but i was thinkin i could put it in the car and have my dad pull me around the block and pop the clutch in 2 or third gear i need advice asap. (and i tried backing the main pully up again but the bolt comes loose)


thanks in advance
Old 10-20-08, 11:39 AM
  #2  
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
88 rx7 drh's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: utah
Posts: 38
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
and i was turning it over with a breaker bar
Old 10-20-08, 11:40 AM
  #3  
not a drifter

iTrader: (133)
 
87 t-66's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Columbus, Ohio
Posts: 9,337
Received 5 Likes on 5 Posts
rusty internals is usually caused by blown coolant seals. did you look through the exhaust ports for broken apex seals? it doesnt turn over at all?
Old 10-20-08, 11:45 AM
  #4  
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
88 rx7 drh's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: utah
Posts: 38
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
no it was turning over a little i think it got some rain init cause the guy didnt cover it up over the sumer or something
Old 10-20-08, 01:11 PM
  #5  
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
88 rx7 drh's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: utah
Posts: 38
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
should i just put it in?
Old 10-20-08, 01:16 PM
  #6  
My car hates me

iTrader: (1)
 
dot_txt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: SE Wisconsin
Posts: 380
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
No. If its rusted and seized its dead. Probably not even worth rebuilding. Rebuild your old engine or buy a known good condition engine.
Old 10-20-08, 01:32 PM
  #7  
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
88 rx7 drh's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: utah
Posts: 38
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
this isnt very rusty it ran great when it got pulled out
Old 10-20-08, 01:38 PM
  #8  
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
88 rx7 drh's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: utah
Posts: 38
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
how much would a rebuild cost if i did all the work?
Old 10-20-08, 02:28 PM
  #9  
My car hates me

iTrader: (1)
 
dot_txt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: SE Wisconsin
Posts: 380
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Depending on the condition of the engine.. Anywhere between 950 and 1500+. That all depends on the condition of the rotors, Irons, and housings. A base rebuild kit from Atkins is roughly 900$. Could be more thats just a guess. If the bearings need replacing then your looking at another 150ish. If your rotors, Irons, and housings are in good condition then you should be able to get away with no more than 1200 if your very careful and systematic. Otherwise if you need to replace Rotors, Irons, or the housings then your best bet it to buy them used here off other forum members.
Old 10-20-08, 02:29 PM
  #10  
torretos stunt double

iTrader: (2)
 
myersprostatus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: fountain valley
Posts: 608
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
uhh. when i purchased a used jdm motor. i could turn it over with a big racthet and a socket with some effort but not to much, i could hear the thud thud sound as well knowing that theres compression. its sounds like yours is seized.
Old 10-20-08, 02:35 PM
  #11  
My car hates me

iTrader: (1)
 
dot_txt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: SE Wisconsin
Posts: 380
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
The engine should turn over with a breaker bar. It should even be able to be turned by hand (if you have the strength to do it). If he can't turn it with a breaker bar then it is seriously seized and needs to be ripped apart. If its rusting then the internals are probably shot. Not even worth tearing it apart unless its to see if there is anything salvageable inside it.
Old 10-20-08, 03:01 PM
  #12  
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
88 rx7 drh's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: utah
Posts: 38
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
but the thing is mine was turning over and going thud thud. from compression
Old 10-20-08, 03:08 PM
  #13  
Full Member
 
S4GXL's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: on a twisty road somewhere...
Posts: 154
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
on this note, i could turn mine by hand on either the flywheel or pulley...like really easily. i could feel a little compression but not even close to what a piston motor has. i assume this is normal because alot of a piston engine resistance comes from the valvetrain as well. nevertheless the car runs awesome. no problems at all.
Old 10-20-08, 03:08 PM
  #14  
My car hates me

iTrader: (1)
 
dot_txt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: SE Wisconsin
Posts: 380
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
The engine that has bad compression on 2 faces? Its blown and needs a rebuild. Simple as that. The other engine is seized and should not be used.
Old 10-22-08, 09:29 PM
  #15  
Jus passin through

 
gonetomorrow's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: CT
Posts: 22
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
This is very close to my exact question, only with a variation. I bought a project car and pulled the motor. It turns smoothly by rotating the flywheel by hand and I hear the intake and exhaust pulse sounds (inner intake manny and exhaust manny still on motor.) Then I thought, "but the plugs are still in" and got worried. At first I was relieved it wasn't frozen but now I don't know what to think.
Old 10-22-08, 11:59 PM
  #16  
My car hates me

iTrader: (1)
 
dot_txt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: SE Wisconsin
Posts: 380
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
If you hear 6 even pulses coming out of the exhaust port then your probably fine. It will sound more like a "Chug" vs a "hiss" though. You should hear 2 pulses per full rotation of the flywheel. You could still have poor compression but the only real way to test that is to get the starter hooked up and turn it over with that using a compression tester. Good luck.




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:48 AM.