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na vs. ls integra

Old Oct 25, 2007 | 01:18 AM
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Old Oct 25, 2007 | 03:04 AM
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doesn't matter what hp, is all about the driver, take it to the track or mountain,
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Old Oct 25, 2007 | 03:26 AM
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Originally Posted by KNONFS
Same here!

Although my 91 had a RB header/pre silencer, HKS 50mm catback, and HKS filter. LS integras were three or four cars behind by third gear; GSR and SI (DOHC 1.6) were tougher to beat.
My old 91 had GReddy PE catback, Bonez Super-flow cat, stock manifold, street ported rebuild from Atkins, cone intake, pretty standard stuff.

On a more important note: I beat him at a track.. which is where ALL of you should be racing.

Street racing is for ****.
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Old Oct 25, 2007 | 06:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Idrinkalot
LS's are DOHC 1.6, same specs as the ZC

SI's as the 1996-2000 ones with the B16A2 , older SIs and their factory engines were a joke
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Old Oct 25, 2007 | 06:35 AM
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Originally Posted by villin
no the ls's are b18b non vtecs with long geared tranny's. the si however is a b16a with vtec with a closer range tranny.
Exactly
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Old Oct 25, 2007 | 06:37 AM
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Originally Posted by danielson
i raced my brother in my 1990 intergra ls he was in his 91 seven and i beat him pretty hard.

i had an intake, exhuast and an exedy stage 1 clutch.

he had a shitty exhuast, slipping clutch and non working 5th and 6th ports.

yes you will get beat just because the rx7 is heavier even though you have more hp and torque.


You beat a FC NA that wasn't working properly
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Old Oct 25, 2007 | 06:40 AM
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Originally Posted by micaheli
My old 91 had GReddy PE catback, Bonez Super-flow cat, stock manifold, street ported rebuild from Atkins, cone intake, pretty standard stuff.
I miss my NA days
Originally Posted by micaheli
On a more important note: I beat him at a track.. which is where ALL of you should be racing.
Street racing is for ****.
Right, u tell em
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Old Oct 25, 2007 | 08:25 AM
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sorry to bust your bubble anyone but the zc only came on jdm civics of the eg/ej chassis
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Old Oct 25, 2007 | 08:27 AM
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Originally Posted by KNONFS
SI's as the 1996-2000 ones with the B16A2 , older SIs and their factory engines were a joke
im pretty sure my 91 si hatch with spank most na rx7. sorry to say.
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Old Oct 25, 2007 | 09:43 AM
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^ only if a monkeys driving

my 90 na fc easily could take gsr integras. all i had was apexi intake, cat back and a rebuild to stock specs, it was a s5 btw. a gsr w/ a few boltons wasnt that quick, but im done with NA
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Old Oct 25, 2007 | 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Rxseven7
im pretty sure my 91 si hatch with spank most na rx7. sorry to say.
I can see that if:

-It had a DOHC vtec engine
-The FC was stock and in poor running condition

Otherwise, it wasn't even close.
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Old Oct 25, 2007 | 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by JDM_Infini
^ only if a monkeys driving

my 90 na fc easily could take gsr integras. all i had was apexi intake, cat back and a rebuild to stock specs, it was a s5 btw. a gsr w/ a few boltons wasnt that quick, but im done with NA
I partially agree with you, GSRs and SI races were a matter of who had more mods on the car. I did lost to a some of them; not to mentioned those hatches with engine swaps.
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Old Oct 25, 2007 | 12:05 PM
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my daily driver/winter beater is a 96 Integra GS, it has 295 000km ALL STOCK.
and ive beated a lot of more powerful cars (RSX Type S, and other crappy FWD cars). i Have been driving this integra for over 5 years almost every day.

And the N/A will pass it, if you know how to launch and when to shift.
With my S4 N/A which i drove a few months before swapping, i raced a old 91 civic HB with a SiR. and i passed him on the 1/4 by about 2-3 car lenghts.

BTW S4 N/A base model = 1140 KG
96 Integra GS = 1160 kg

so like everyone keep telling you, its all about the driver AND the launch !!
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Old Oct 25, 2007 | 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Rxseven7
sorry to bust your bubble anyone but the zc only came on jdm civics of the eg/ej chassis
hold on now there are 2 zc motors. the us first gen teggies had the dohc non-vtec one. however there is a sohc vtec zc which was a jdm only motor but is the same as the d16z6 found in the 92-95 ex models.
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Old Oct 25, 2007 | 12:20 PM
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btw to the op. it will come down to the lanch and driver skill. if i can out run my friends 355 monte carlo with match gearing and a mildly built an tuned motor in my s4 with just a rebuild a teg with what he has should be easy. but take it to a track either way.
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Old Oct 25, 2007 | 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by micaheli
I whooped my friend in his 97 Integra GSR in my 91 NA Coupe.. Learn to drive.
LOL. i got my friend's 2000 GSR with custom exhaust and intake with my 90 GTU.. racing beat headers, racing beat cat back, high flow cat, exedy clutch, 8 pound flywheel and mazdaspeed cone air filter. it was close though
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Old Oct 25, 2007 | 02:55 PM
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You'll probably beat him.

I raced a LS in my stock pickup truck when I had it for god sakes...and won. He was a crappy driver, but LS's are slow as ****.

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Old Oct 25, 2007 | 03:17 PM
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Stock for stock, NA FCs have better 0-60s than the newest Integras. But FCs are only half a second to 1 second faster, so you better be a good driver and your car better be in tune. Heck, his exhaust might even make it an equal match.

The RSX is even slower than the Integra, btw. Above is for latest "Integra" Integra.
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Old Oct 25, 2007 | 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by KNONFS


You beat a FC NA that wasn't working properly
yes thats why posted that info. but really it would not have mattered anyways if it was running prefect. that fc was horribly slow, his 85 gs would have ran circles around it.
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Old Oct 25, 2007 | 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by villin
hold on now there are 2 zc motors. the us first gen teggies had the dohc non-vtec one. however there is a sohc vtec zc which was a jdm only motor but is the same as the d16z6 found in the 92-95 ex models.
There are more than just 2, there are more like 5. There was one in the first gen teg D16A1 which has DOHC, the single cam in the EG, and there was also a DOHC version, there was also one in the CRX(JDM) that was also DOHC, and in the delsol.

The reason I say he'll lose is because my lil G1 TEG(before the b sersies sap and ITBs) would walk a NA FC, and the only thing done to it was ZC cams which is the main difference between the US and the ZC motors. The 2g teg has more power and a better trans but weighs slightly more than a G1.
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Old Oct 26, 2007 | 02:24 AM
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Back When I Had My N/a I Beat The **** Out Of A Gsr It Was On The Highway Though But I Think You Have A Very Good Chance I'll Do It
It Well Be Lots Of Fun Hell 50 Dollars Would Be Worth It But That Just Me I Love To Race No Matter What
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Old Oct 26, 2007 | 02:51 AM
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N/A is good for reliability, I love my GTU, but I feel like I actually have to try and I am getting sick of rice boys wanting to race. I am getting a tii swap this summer (if everything works out). I am looking forward to being able to toy with people and not even trying. You know, pull at half throttle, let them catch up slowly and then take off.
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Old Oct 26, 2007 | 09:44 AM
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I say try it; maybe for fun instead of cash. but do it!

You'll never know unless you race him! so freakin' race him!
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Old Oct 26, 2007 | 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by boriquaalexr
Back When I Had My N/a I Beat The **** Out Of A Gsr It Was On The Highway Though But I Think You Have A Very Good Chance I'll Do It
It Well Be Lots Of Fun Hell 50 Dollars Would Be Worth It But That Just Me I Love To Race No Matter What
Stupid forum... I'd rather it lowercase EVERY letter than uppercase the first letter of each word. annnoooooyiiiing....
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