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Old 08-30-03, 04:44 PM
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Question n00b, srry in advance

O.k. Well i'm 15 9/12ths and i have been looking at cars for the past year and a half. 1.8T Golf GTI.........to expensive. Dodge Ram (space for guitar crap).........still to expensive. 2 gen RX-7 (turbo prefably).........just right . or so...........?

Anything 5-6k below is totally fine for the budget. And this is my perfect little sports car. . BUT ........... i'm worried about all the things i hear about them.

1. Engine floods
2. "Plan on a rebuild every 20k miles"
3. ............... ha, not really much else.

I learned a stick about 2 weeks ago on my friend 19(82?) Porsche 944: stalled once. popped clutch once. totally fine after. Got to drive my sisters old 91' integra stick. LOVED IT!!! I drove a 4 banger golf and was disapointed. But that stick makes all the diference. (i know u've all heard this before, srry. it's just all new and exciting to me).

Straight to the point now:

Is this car right for me? 20 miles each way to school. dependability? fast ? trunk space? and finally........ any key things i can talk my dad into it for sure?
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dependability and turbo do not mix in the same sentence.

But to what you said.....

The engine flooding i havent ever really heard about. The rebuild crap is just that crap. If you treat it like **** then yes plan on a rebuild at 20k. If you give it the time it needs and do the maintance then no you wouldnt have to worry about it.. I would say you need to research a little more b4 you even think bout looking for a 7...

Finally, you said ur 15 and just learned how to drive a stick.. I would by no means recommend a RWD car much less a TII for a first car. You are asking for trouble.. Thats like a first time bike rider being put on a GSXR1000 to be taught on.

Based on wut you said you want i would say get a FWD car that is cheap and not fast. Otherwise you will be fillin up every 2 days, being screwed up the *** on insurance, and then still having to keep the car up.. So if this sounds nice to you then be my guest and do it...

BTW, why are you drivin 20 miles each way to school??
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dependability and turbo do not mix in the same sentence.


What??????


Ok, that is why saab has been using turbo's in there cars for years. That and riggers.


The only reason rotaries and turbos don't last to long is because of the owner or previous owner. If a car is tuned and maintained properly you will get all of its nine lives. If a N/A car can run 200,000 miles, I don't see why a turbo can't do half of that.
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You yourself just proved my point...

"If a N/A car can run 200k miles, I don't see why a turbo can't do half of that."
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Originally posted by Freaky Monkey007
Finally, you said ur 15 and just learned how to drive a stick.. I would by no means recommend a RWD car much less a TII for a first car. You are asking for trouble..
Why is it trouble? (srry, dumb question). I actually have done a lot of research on the rotary. The German inventer (walken??) born in august 1902. (not trying to be a smart ***, but also not a typical ignorant, hormonal 15 year old. ) What is the mile endurance of a turbo and a N/A?



BTW, why are you drivin 20 miles each way to school??
*typo on my part* bout 14. I live 14 miles from school. (plano to dallas and back (Texas.......YEEEHA!)).
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if you know how to drive and are RESPONSIBLE go for it. you just have to remember that these cars are very attention crazed. as long as you do simple things (like check the oil once a week, pre-mix if you take out the oil injectors, etc) then it should last you awhile. you will most likely have to rebuild after about 130k miles if you do get a turbo II but that's just the life of the engine. i have 102k on my engine and it's running in near if not perfect condition. just take care of it, don't race it all the time, don't overheat it(they have a tendency to do that) and get help from the people on this board BEFORE a problem really occurs and you will have yourself a nice car for a good amount of time.
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Well....... It's this, a GS-T, or an old mustang or ford fairlane. I would really prefer the Turbo II though because my sisters (29 now) said they were one of the best cars the ever drove (F***Ed up sentence i know). And i know my parents wont trust me with the eclipse with a bad blind spot cuz my sis got up to 160 and did the dallas to houston trip in 1 hour and like 53 minutes. lol
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Thank you minclo. And also thank you Freaky Monkey007. Both opinions greatly appreciated. Ha. I take car of my mom's FX-35 than she does. Don't worry. The car will be BABIED! Racing....only if conditions r right. I can't afford a ticket. Is the thing about starting the car changing spaces and turning off and flooding true if it's kept up? I've read alot of things about it being common and alot about its not at all.

minclo........if u dont mind me asking....how old r u? if ur under 18.......wat does your insuarance run and who's it with?

thank you all for your time
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Originally posted by Freaky Monkey007
You yourself just proved my point...

"If a N/A car can run 200k miles, I don't see why a turbo can't do half of that."

People tend to think that turbo charged cars only last between 60-100,000 miles. Not hat they can't do past 100,000. geez. You guys are worst than a lawyer and a contract. Always trying to find loop holes.
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Originally posted by Crazitaziboy
Why is it trouble? (srry, dumb question). I actually have done a lot of research on the rotary. The German inventer (walken??) born in august 1902. (not trying to be a smart ***, but also not a typical ignorant, hormonal 15 year old. ) What is the mile endurance of a turbo and a N/A?




*typo on my part* bout 14. I live 14 miles from school. (plano to dallas and back (Texas.......YEEEHA!)).
The trouble i was talking bout werent so much probs with the car but more so driving it.. Im sure that my advice will be taken a little less than someone who has been driving more and is a lot older than me. Past that though i have seen many of my friends get into a RWD sports car for the first time and end up wraping the car around a tree. Just saying be careful i guess. Ive been driving since i was 13 and a 7 still kinda scares me cuz im afraid of wut i will end up doing..
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I have been driving since i was like 14 and had the ***** to take the car out late at nite and learn myself. (VERY STUPID!!!). never got caught. drove 300 miles before i got my permit even. i have test my limits and knocked the alignment out of our old 93' mx-6. they didnt notice so i got lucky. very stupid but the expericience was worth it. ha, i will be careful. even though i already know i will probably test the limits of the 7 but it wont be on a public road or street. big parking lot slalom or skid pad under super vision. cant afford tickets. thanks for all your advice and concern again.
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also........srry..........wat about truck space? would it possibly fit something 30 x30 x 14? guitar cabinet roughly. any one in dallas with a 7? like to hear ur view with the texas heat and all. will it last on a long road trip? I would HOPE to buy one, get a one way ticket to were it is and drive home. probably a bad idea. all thoughts and coments welcome.
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Originally posted by Freaky Monkey007

are you tryin to say 16 year old cant drive a 7? im 16 and drive a tII and i see no problems.. i dont treat it like **** and its a rear wheel car.. it just u gotta know how to shift right.. anyone can learn no matter what age



Finally, you said ur 15 and just learned how to drive a stick.. I would by no means recommend a RWD car much less a TII for a first car. You are asking for trouble.. Thats like a first time bike rider being put on a GSXR1000 to be taught on.

Based on wut you said you want i would say get a FWD car that is cheap and not fast. Otherwise you will be fillin up every 2 days, being screwed up the *** on insurance, and then still having to keep the car up.. So if this sounds nice to you then be my guest and do it...

BTW, why are you drivin 20 miles each way to school?? [/B]
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haha.. sounds like you and me arent soo far apart.. although i made the stupid mistake of having the rear step out on me going around a blind turn.. that scared me pretty bad but not as bad as when i was comming down a hill and there was a right turn and i was going a little too fast and slid into the other lane with a truck comming at me.. funny how the stupid **** teaches you the most.. If you get the car gl.. HF with it and all. Hopefully ill be able to get one in a few months when i make some more cash. Until then just have to drive my friends and leach off them.. haha..
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My second car was and still is the RX-7. Although first was a civic, From the experience you have you should be ok as long as you don't do any retarded stuff w/ the car. Get used to the car before you try to push the limits.
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88 never did i say that he couldnt drive and people cant drive.. A RWD car presents different challenges than a FWD car which is easier to learn to drive on. If you read my above post i said that b/c of friends that have died b/c they get into a high power sports car and go do stupid ****.. A car like a 7 will ask you to drive it faster and push it to its limits.. That was all i was trying to say...
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Originally posted by Crazitaziboy
Why is it trouble? (srry, dumb question). I actually have done a lot of research on the rotary. The German inventer (walken??) born in august 1902. (not trying to be a smart ***, but also not a typical ignorant, hormonal 15 year old. ) What is the mile endurance of a turbo and a N/A?



well if you werent trying to be a smart *** at least get his name right. =/


anyways, i got a turbo 2 as my first car, and i wouldnt reccomend it.

it's too fast. and i wouldnt call it incredibly reliable.

and its no honda civic, dont expect to get 30mpg, try more like 15.
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Originally posted by Crazitaziboy
also........srry..........wat about truck space? would it possibly fit something 30 x30 x 14? guitar cabinet roughly. any one in dallas with a 7? .
There is 32" between the two rear shock towers. I don't see a reason why you won't be able to fit the cabinet.
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You can buy a very nice 89-92 non-turbo RX-7 for a lot less than 5000, I would look for one of those. They are dependable when properly maintained and a lot of fun. There is decent trunk space and this particular year of RX-7 is a great all around car. Just remember, mods make any car less reliable and streetable.

*edit* My stock 87 got 27mpg on the freeway, including some test drive city miles. Hard driving brings about 15, just like my 88 Integra. The difference is that an RX-7 is about 5x more bang for the buck than an Integra.

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i say you buy a N/A model first, then swap it out later for a 13B-T once you have "learned everything" about the rotary engine. it should give you enough time to decide if you like rotarys or not, and if you can deal with the maintenance these type of cars require.
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