does that whole jumping the car deal say anything to you?

 

Not really.

 

alright and as far as this black plug can i unplug it and test it on the end coming from the fuse box? and it would be the LED+ wire going in that plug then i just need a ground, correct?

 

Correct, but make sure the wire you are testing is the one from the engine fuse box.

 

ok. that plug does have power (the led lit up) going to try to test the black wire under the dash one more time.

 

the wire im testing under the dash is the solid black wire in the two wire plug that has a black/white wire and a solid black wire and the solid one is the one im testing, yes? just to make sure.

 

ok i tested the solid black wire again and it does have power. soo where do i go from here?? that wire does have power which mean the switch is getting power, correct?

 

where did my man satch go?

 

EDIT: The following assumes the Black wire you retested is at the ignition switch and not the Black wire in the engine bay.

If the Black wire has voltage at the ignition switch then you need to check if the voltage is able to be passed on to the other ignition wires. So as I stated earlier ***** the B/W wire while plugged into the ignition switch while the key is to on and check for voltage. So the + LED wire to the pin and the - LED wire to the ground which I'm guessing you used the ground at the relay I pointed out and it made a difference when measuring the Black wire.

You could tell if voltage is being passed on to the B/W in a different manner than illustrated above. With key to on the B/W wire in the Circuit Opening Relay should have voltage w/key to on. The B/W wire at the relay is located in the top row center location which happens to be diagonal from the Black ground wire. + LED wire to the B/W wire and - LED wire to the Black ground wire and w/key to on the light should illuminate.

If the B/W wire at the relay has voltage then the B/W wire at the ignition has to have voltage but if the B/W at the ignition switch has voltage then the B/W wire at the relay might not have voltage.

 

no i didnt use the relay to retest the solid black wire. But now that im looking to test the b/w wire in the relay. my car doesnt have the relay??

if you look back at the picture i posted of the wires going into the switch, those wires go right back to the plugs. One of which is the plug with the solid black wire and the b/w wire. so what if my car doesnt have the relay just test the b/w wire?

 

never mind i overlooked that you said to the right of the steering column. i found it and the smaller b/w wire does NOT have power. So what is it?

 

ok weirdest thing ever...i just wanted to see if this would do anything. so i go out and just lightly hit the back of the ignition switch and push on it and turned the key and she fired right up. wwwwwwwwoooooooooowwwwwwww

 

but now i wake up this morning and go to start it and nothing again????????? this sssuuuccccckkkkssss

 

When you tested the B/W wire did you ***** it with a pin and have the key to on?

 

no i just put the LED+ wire into the clip with the b/w wire like i did with everything else. and no should the key be to on to test it?

edit and grounded it to the solid black wire obviously.

 

Okay, my patience is running on low. You were told how to test the B/W wire and you failed on two accounts. First off does it appear to you that the Black wire in the ignition plug is connected to the B/W wire. I ask this cause how in the hell can the voltage pass from the Black wire to the B/W wire if they are not connected in the plug. The answer is they can't and this is the reason for the damn ignition switch because it is the job of the ignition switch to pass the voltage from the Black wire to either the Blue accessory wire as already explained or the B/W wire as already explained or the two Black/Red wires as already explained. Now why can't you test the wire as asked instead of coming up with your own way which results in testing nothing? Secondly, the Black wire can only pass voltage onto the B/W wire if the key is turned to on just like the Blue accessory wire could only receive power if the key were turned to acc or the B/R wire (related to starting) only receives power if the key was turned to start. There ain't no magic involved in this as there is a predescript process for voltage to be passed from one wire to another.

From a recent post:

If the Black wire has voltage at the ignition switch then you need to check if the voltage is able to be passed on to the other ignition wires. So as I stated earlier ***** the B/W wire while plugged into the ignition switch while the key is to on and check for voltage. So the + LED wire to the pin and the - LED wire to the ground which I'm guessing you used the ground at the relay I pointed out and it made a difference when measuring the Black wire.

 

Ok just to clear things up. I tested to solid black wire at the plug that has the solid black wire and the b/w wire going into it, the solid black wire does have constant voltage as i did get the LED to light up. Next you told me to test the b/w wire on that same plug and i didnt get the LED to light up. You then told me to test the b/w wire on the relay and ground it to the solid black wire on the relay. i just did that with the key to "ON" and i got nothing as you can see in the picture attached. I didn't ***** the wire but the way i did this worked with the other wires. I have tested the wires as you have said. just didnt ***** the wires. So is the picture you can see the best i could get a picture that i have the +LED in the b/w wire in the top middle of the relay and the -LED in the solid black wire in the bottom left of the relay. and the LED did not light up.

Im really trying here...just not good with electrical stuff.

 

It's not possible to test the B/W wire at the ignition switch unless the plug is connected to the switch and the key is to on. It's just not possible to do it any other way. This is why the wire needs to be pricked. You ask once again how to do this and you will not get a response from me.

If you decided to test the B/W wire at the relay then for the wire to have voltage then the B/W wire at the ignition switch must have voltage and the only way that is possible is if the ignition switch is working properly and the key is to on. If the key is not to on then the B/W ignition wire has no voltage and it is this wire that basically feeds the B/W relay wire so how is this wire to have voltage if the key is not turned to on in addition to the ignition plug not being connected to the switch?

 

the plug is connected to the switch. I never disconnected it...

And if you see on the picture attached i didnt unplug anything to put the LED wires into the relay. That is how i tested the solid black wire on the plug to the switch. I never had to unplug it. I understand how to test the wire. The b/w wire does not have power going through it.

 

Are you talking about the plug to the ignition switch or to the relay? When I talk about the B/W wire I either mention the one to the switch (ignition) or the one to the relay to prevent confusion!

 

I never disconnected either one...i put the LED+ wire into the clip along with the whatever wire it is im testing. and it worked with the solid black on the plug to the ignition. but it didnt on the b/w on the ignition plug or the relay.

 

If the B/W wire at the ignition switch does not have voltage w/key to on then either the wire is not making proper contact in the plug (including the Black wire) or the ignition switch is problematic. W/key to ACC check the Blue wire for voltage at the ignition switch. In the same plug as the Blue wire is Black/Red wire and check for voltage on this wire w/key to on. If neither of these have voltage when they should then again either the plugs are not making proper contact with the switch (including the Black wire) or the switch is the problem.

So after these tests on the various wires, and if they show no voltage then remove the plug w/the Black wire and see if the Black wire is pulled back in the plug and thus not making contact with the switch as this could be the cause of your problem. If that isn't it then you likely need a new switch and they can be had for $140 at Mazdatrix.

 

no voltage. im going to get a switch. hopefully all will be good.

 

Just put a used switch in from an s4 n/a. Now when i turn the key nothing at all happens. not even the one short beep i had before.

im at a loss of words...more frustration than i can handle.

I dont understand how the %$&@ it doesn't do anything now.

what is going on...please someone out there must know!

 

If your car has the factory alarm then check for voltage on the Black/Blue wire at the Starter Cut Relay w/key to start. Also, does the Black wire at the ignition switch look like it is positioned properly within its plug?