Rotary_7

im planning to go stock front springs with tokico HPs and rear Eibachs springs with tokico HPs

Will this be an ok set up for amateur drifting or just everyday driving?

Bigretardhead

why in the world would you run stock front springs and eiebachs in the rear? don't do that, not a good idea. you'll have tons of oversteer, and you won't be able to stop from spinning.

if you're still learning to drift, keep stock springs all the way around. it will help you learn how weight shift works.

Rotary_7

how bout if i put racing beats in tha front?

(or is anyone selling pair of front springs???)

Rotary_7

o well, if i cant get a good setup with the rear springs, ill just help my friend sell it instead of keeping it..
maybe if i go RSR all around or sumthing itll be better?

ddub

Why not keep the same brand of springs in front and rear? They are made to go with each other, using some other brand may or may not work well, it'd be hard to guess.

Rotary_7

yea, i kno wat u mean...but i was thinking maybe if i had a stiffer rear it would be easier to wipe my tail out

zero83

iTrader: (7)

Maybe you should look at adjustable shocks. I'm not to sure about drift set up but if you set the fronts soft and the rear stiff that might help. I may be wrong though, the settings on the shocks may not make that much of a difference.

I Hate Ricers

As long as your car has LSD there is no problem getting the tail out. A lot of the D1 competitors run an understeering setup that they provoke oversteer with. This gives them more control when the rear steps out. Practice before you do something rash.

RSVampire

yes practice is a good thing. And that doesn't make sense... wipe the back out easier if you had some stiffer springs in the back. Yes that's true but replacing the fronts wouldn't mean the back got any more/less stiff in the process! replace all the springs and all the shocks with the same brand (no mixing!!!) so your car feels more "even". And like the other guy said try practicing a bit with a stock suspension so you can learn how the weight shifts in the car.

MechE00

Help me out here, are the eibach rear springs progressive, or linear? If one end of the car has linear springs and the other end has progressive springs, it might give you some wonky dynamics that might make consistency difficult at first. You might want to consider playing with sway bars rather than springs..

Of course, I'm assuming you're doing your drifting practice in controlled, safe, legal conditions.. driving a car with too much oversteer around on public streets might involve unforeseen situations developing in which you lose control of the car and can't avoid causing a wreck. Public roads can be quite unpredictable places. ...Not good to do that to yourself, your car, or those you may hit.

pengarufoo

what are the people in here that are saying buy all the same brand smoking?

they are just springs, inquire what the spring rates are, you can mix manufacturers/vendors all you want. Ask them what the rate is! You should have an idea of what rates you want to run on front/back before you buy. If you don't know already, you need to take the weight of the car with you in it into consideration, and the intended use. Since it sounds like you want to drift, ask some people who are already drfiting with this car what spring rates they are running and how heavy their car is, it will save you trouble and money in the long run.

Don't forget you can also cut springs to lower the ride height & increase the rate at the same time.

Any time you increase the spring rate you need more damping though, so even if you can get away with cutting springs to save money you still have to either buy new struts or somehow modify your existing ones. Using the stock shocks with uprated springs, new or cut originals, will result in a very bouncy and poor handling ride.

Apathy

I am not good w/ suspension, but I was always told that it wasnt a good idea to cut the springs... but, then again, I dont know much... I too am a drifting enthusiast and have been practicing lately. I decided to learn how to control the car 110% before I do any drastic upgrades... but that is just me... I didnt do to shabby in a drift contest last summer in homestead... I've learned alot more since then...

Bigretardhead

you can cut springs if you know what you're doing, and you don't cut them much. but its not recommended for most people.

but like pengarufoo, sure you can mix springs from different companies, just find out their rates and how much they lower the car. also, if their progressive or linear rates. you won't want to put progressive rates on one side, and linear rates on the other. and actually, since you're drifting, you'll want linear rates all around anyway so its more predictable.

I'd ditch the eibachs, and yeah, maybe go with Rs*R's all around or something (the race springs, not the street ones)

SDrotary-FC

i run the eibachs with tokico illumias and it drifts well

pengarufoo

There is nothing wrong with cut springs, springs are very simple mechanisms and as long as you measure twice and think about what you're doing, you can cut the springs with no adverse effects.

Every reasonable book I have read that touches this subject (a few) has recommended cutting springs as an affordable way to drop your ride height and increase the spring rate in one shot. Most people who say they have tried cutting their springs and the car handled like *** afterwards did not improve their damping because they thought they were only lowering the car. Cutting springs increases the spring rate significantly, so you MUST get more damping or the results will be horrible, this is true wether you cut the springs or buy aftermarket ones with a higher rate, because both give you the same result: a higher spring rate.

If you're handy at all, and short on cash, I recommend cutting your springs and applying the money you saved on springs towards some good adjustable dampers.

rhscare

Tein HE Drift Spec... I just bought a set so hopefully they will be nice lol.

Snrub

iTrader: (1)

Were you thinking of using Eibach ERS rear springs or Eibach Pro-Kit rear springs? If you were thinking about using the ERSs and selecting a custom rate (lower than stock) that would make the car more tail happy, I don't see why that couldn't work for you.

ilike2eatricers

I think they are rear eibach prokit springs. The prokit has a dead coil I believe that can be must without affecting the spring rates.

Rotary_7

so is it styll safe to put stock springs in tha front???

Bigretardhead

probly not if you have aftermarket rears. in that case, with old worn stock springs, the rears will most likely be a higher rate than the stock fronts. thats not good, unless you really know what you're doing. it'll give you a LOT LOT LOT of oversteer, which isn't even neccesary for drifting. it'd probably just make it worse, you'd just get frustrated because you won't be able to not spin. and if you ever want to corner fast, forget about it. you'll just slide, and spin if you're not real quick.

just get new shocks and keep the stock springs. or, if you want a little stiffer and lower, maybe cut like 1 coil off.

either that, get some aftermarket front springs to go with them, with a similar rate to the eibach front's...maybe a little lower rate.

Rotary_7

anysites or places where they sell pairs of springs???
beside racing beat