Is my engine blown? Compression test vid inside
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Is my engine blown? Compression test vid inside
Compression seems to be 92 psi x3 F and 80psi x3 (?) R. There is some white smoke when the car is revved but it did sit for 3 months.
How it runs:
Story: Started the car up (just finished 6 port turbo), ran GREAT with a smooth idle, no hesitations, etc. Went for a drive, WOT redlined it (bad idea, I know), boosted hard and an intercooler pipe blew off Torqued the clamp down, started it up again and it is now misfiring, hesitating and bucking all over the place. The car drives but is stumbling and hesitating...still boosts hard but hits fuel cut or something and bogs intermittently...runs like CRAP. I changed out the leading plugs to known good (eh) ones, coils good, wires are good. It has good torque so its not running on one rotor (I know what that feels like)...more like one and a half.
I have no idea wtf could've happened when I drove it. It couldn't have gone over 8.6psi cause thats fuel cut. The timing is dead on. Best case scenario its leaky injectors, since they were bought used. I'd like some input before I drop another engine in. Edit: And when I drove the car (running crappy) and redlined it it pulled hard and left a CLOWD of black smoke behind.
Thanks.
How it runs:
Story: Started the car up (just finished 6 port turbo), ran GREAT with a smooth idle, no hesitations, etc. Went for a drive, WOT redlined it (bad idea, I know), boosted hard and an intercooler pipe blew off Torqued the clamp down, started it up again and it is now misfiring, hesitating and bucking all over the place. The car drives but is stumbling and hesitating...still boosts hard but hits fuel cut or something and bogs intermittently...runs like CRAP. I changed out the leading plugs to known good (eh) ones, coils good, wires are good. It has good torque so its not running on one rotor (I know what that feels like)...more like one and a half.
I have no idea wtf could've happened when I drove it. It couldn't have gone over 8.6psi cause thats fuel cut. The timing is dead on. Best case scenario its leaky injectors, since they were bought used. I'd like some input before I drop another engine in. Edit: And when I drove the car (running crappy) and redlined it it pulled hard and left a CLOWD of black smoke behind.
Thanks.
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You really need to let the motor break in before you drive it hard like that if it's a new motor. That being said, for a fresh rebuild, your compression numbers aren't great but it could just need run time to build compression.
From how it's running it could be running stupid rich. Check to make sure the vaccume line didn't blow off the MAP sensor and check to make sure the MAF isn't stuck open.
From how it's running it could be running stupid rich. Check to make sure the vaccume line didn't blow off the MAP sensor and check to make sure the MAF isn't stuck open.
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Its actually an old Kevin Landers rebuild with ~60k hard miles on it. Ran great before it was boosted. For a 6 port engine with 9.7:1 compression the numbers are very low. Just not sure if thats the reason its running like ****, it feels like its running rich, burns a whole gallon of fuel just idling and driving not even 1/4 mile.
Vac line for MAP is good, MAF is good also. The car is running open 2.5" downpipe with no O2 btw.
Vac line for MAP is good, MAF is good also. The car is running open 2.5" downpipe with no O2 btw.
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I might actually do this, the plugs have like 200 miles on them but may have been fouled when the car was flooded to hell when I was troubleshooting the injectors.
But the car isn't stumbling and dying now...it was almost out of gas, lol. It drives OK but hesitates like crazy and boost randomly hits after like 5k and after that it pulls hard, no smoke anymore either. I will post a driving vid either tonight or tomorrow, thanks for all the help so far.
But the car isn't stumbling and dying now...it was almost out of gas, lol. It drives OK but hesitates like crazy and boost randomly hits after like 5k and after that it pulls hard, no smoke anymore either. I will post a driving vid either tonight or tomorrow, thanks for all the help so far.
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So I just found the problem: timing. I removed the CAS and spun the gear to listen for plugs and injectors firing and then put it back in very roughly adjusted. Started the car up and it runs completely normal now. If I bring the yellow 5* TDC mark towards the pointer while the engine is running w/ the timing light it starts to run like **** again. When it is more towards the passenger side it runs normal. I'm stumped...because at first it was dead on and it ran fine when it was initially started...did the ECU detect knock and retard the timing to get the car into limp mode? I see a sensor that screws into a housing with 1 wire going to it, but I didn't think the NA cars had knock sensors..I'm going to take it for a spin and see how it runs.
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I just went for a spin and the car runs great. Scrap all the timing crap cause I think I was adjusting timing with it at like 1500rpm since thats the only speed it would be smooth at. Very smooth idle, great startup and pulls smoothly, just won't make any boost. It doesn't even really pull until 5k. Its probably making like 2 psi because it pulls way harder than before. Might cap my wastegate line and go for an easy drive, I also might have my boost gauge line on a nipple that doesn't see pressure. This thing is like a never ending project!
And the sensor is not on the housing its under the heater hose so its probably coolant temp. I also have octane booster in it with 1/4 tank 93 just in case. Edit: Oh and the rear rotor's trailing wire was pulled off the coil too
And the sensor is not on the housing its under the heater hose so its probably coolant temp. I also have octane booster in it with 1/4 tank 93 just in case. Edit: Oh and the rear rotor's trailing wire was pulled off the coil too
Last edited by KhanArtisT; 10-23-08 at 04:33 PM.
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So the problem was a crappy boost gauge and my wastegate opening too early. My entire secondary arm setup was crap because the wastegate arm can move up/down and side/side. I redid it and mounted the wastegate to the frame with a wire attaching it to the flapper and it works great.
Boosting 5 psi now and it pulls hard as fawk
Boosting 5 psi now and it pulls hard as fawk
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