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Why are all FC front wheels offset to the right?

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Old Aug 27, 2008 | 09:48 AM
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Why are all FC front wheels offset to the right?

Test it out for yourself.

Put two wheels and tires on with equal dimensions, offsets, etc.

Now, look straight down from the left fender and do the same for the right fender. You'll notice that the right wheel sticks out noticeably more than the left wheel.

WHY IS THAT??????
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Old Aug 27, 2008 | 09:57 AM
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ummmm............mine's not like that
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Old Aug 27, 2008 | 10:05 AM
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My wheels are the same?

Might want to get your frame checked out my friend. Somethings DEFINATELY not right if your wheels aren't even. :P
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Old Aug 27, 2008 | 10:19 AM
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bent front subframe
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Old Aug 27, 2008 | 10:21 AM
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bent front subframe
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Old Aug 27, 2008 | 11:48 AM
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Old Aug 27, 2008 | 12:13 PM
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Every single FC I've ever seen has been like that.

Even all the ones at Rotorfest.

I don't think every single FC in the NE has a bent front subframe.

Every single FC stored at KDR was the same way.

Originally Posted by classicauto
ummmm............mine's not like that
Next time I come up to Toronto, (next month), we should meet up, and I'd like to take a look at your front wheels.
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Old Aug 27, 2008 | 12:18 PM
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Well how much of a difference are you talking about?

I've got no noticeable difference......several thou? Maybe, but I dunno.

But both my wheels are pretty well flush with the fenders, neither sticks out or in (to the naked eye) more then the other.

I'm going to peek at a parts car in the yard in a couple minutes.
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Old Aug 27, 2008 | 12:30 PM
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Nothing drastic......the right wheel sticks out a couple mm more than the left wheel.

But it's noticeable.

You should get real close to notice the difference. My friends didn't believe me until I showed it to them with their cars.
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Old Aug 27, 2008 | 12:55 PM
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A stock GXL in the yard seems fine. *Maybe* like a mm if anything, but its hard to gauge off the actual fenders since the "offset" might be produced by them. Plus the tire sidewalls on its stock rims are kinda bushed.

Only real way to tell would be tramming the width, and measuring a center off the strut towers.
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Old Aug 27, 2008 | 02:21 PM
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It might be the fenders, but it should be visually noticeable.
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Old Aug 27, 2008 | 03:30 PM
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ive got it!


your eyes are out of allignment
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Old Aug 27, 2008 | 03:42 PM
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It's not just me.....
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Old Aug 27, 2008 | 03:59 PM
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Maybe the driver's side springs sag more than the passenger's due to driver's weight creating negative camber which would give it that appearance?
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Old Aug 27, 2008 | 04:41 PM
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On multiple FC's? That's a little hard to believe.
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Old Aug 27, 2008 | 04:45 PM
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I looked at the parts car again and it does appear to be over slightly........by slightly, I mean **slightly** like ~1mm. But it could simply be mental at this point.

Out of sheer curiosity I've trammed out the wheel width, and it is indeed centered in the body (otherwise the car would dogtrack) so any variance has to be in the body panels with one sitting further out on the wheel then the other.......by about 1mm on this car.

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Old Aug 27, 2008 | 04:49 PM
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I looked at the parts car again and it does appear to be over slightly........by slightly, I mean **slightly** like ~1mm. But it could simply be mental at this point.

Out of sheer curiosity I've trammed out the wheel width, and it is indeed centered in the body (otherwise the car would dogtrack) so any variance has to be in the body panels with one sitting further out on the wheel then the other.......by about 1mm on this car.

Haha, now everyone's going to start tramming their widths and looking at their wheel wells.
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Old Aug 27, 2008 | 04:58 PM
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Old Aug 27, 2008 | 05:47 PM
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Mine is like that lol. Kinda funny to see the same problem in other cars......
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Old Aug 28, 2008 | 09:03 PM
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adjust camber plate and bolts on spindle to even it out, or run a spacer on drivers side
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Old Aug 28, 2008 | 09:07 PM
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I dont have that problem...
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Old Aug 28, 2008 | 10:59 PM
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Due to the popularity of roundy round racing in North America the Mazda engineers decided to make the car asymmetrical to help it out on the ovals.


No, but seriously, it's probably just tolerace stacking or something.
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Old Aug 28, 2008 | 11:15 PM
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they were built that way? cars can't be 100% symmetrical can they? and besides in bodywork you're allowed +/- 1/8"...but i dunno.
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Old Aug 29, 2008 | 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Roen
Every single FC I've ever seen has been like that.

Even all the ones at Rotorfest.

I don't think every single FC in the NE has a bent front subframe.

Every single FC stored at KDR was the same way.



Next time I come up to Toronto, (next month), we should meet up, and I'd like to take a look at your front wheels.
mine isnt like that either.iam from ny too.
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Old Aug 29, 2008 | 09:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Roen
Test it out for yourself.

Put two wheels and tires on with equal dimensions, offsets, etc.

Now, look straight down from the left fender and do the same for the right fender. You'll notice that the right wheel sticks out noticeably more than the left wheel.

WHY IS THAT??????

Are you talking about stock suspension set up?? I have HKS coilover (w/camber plates), and i dont think my right side is sticking out...
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