mr23sgte

hey i have a MR2 right now and currently saving for a j-spec turbo motor and now some stupid friend of mine i such a biter and wants to get a MR2 and do the same thing as i am doing. my friend has a 93 touring and i have just started to look at the TII and kinda like them but i also love MR2's can u guys just post some stuff up and what i should go with or the the ups and downs of a TII compared to a 91 MR2 soon to be turbo. thanks

dvls-7

They r 2 different animals, both of which r bad *** cars when done right. What i have seen and noticed what the difference in them is cost....what it takes to mod the MR2 vs the cost of modding a T2 u will get better bang for the buck with the T2. I could be wrong but its what ive noticed from guys in my area.

Barwick

they're very similar in my opinion.. I've got a '90 TurboII, my friend has a '91 MR-2 that started life as an N/A, he's putting in the Celica All-Trac motor (same as the MR-2 turbo motor I guess).

You probably know him from mr2faq.com his name is Raptor13x

Anyhow, they're both similar in weight, both RWD, similar in power, one has pistons one has rotors. One has engine up front one has engine in rear.

neofreak

I almost thought about getting a MR2 before getting my second TurboII, but the cost (here, san francisco) of getting a MR2 Turbo is the same as a FD in some cases, plus, I perfer the feel of the FC anyway.

Besides, there are less (read: <5) nice FC's in the whole Bay Area, versus lots of fixed up MR2's.

DomFD3S

Here is my input regarding the MR2 and the Turbo II.

To me, it will depend on the particular "purpose" or "goal" for the car.

Daily driver? Both are good cars.
Drag car? Well, I haven't seen a single drag MR2.
Road Racing car? They both handle well, but due to the mid engine layout of the MR2, the handling can be a little tricky AT THE LIMIT.

What are you particular goals in terms of power? 250hp? 300? 350? 400? 450+?
I HEAR that 300-350 is plenty of power for the MR2. A friend of mine has a MR2 that he rebuilt to run on 19psi daily. I don't have horsepower figures, but it is definitely enough for that car.
300+hp is also quite obtainable w/ the RX-7.

If you want a car that you can have fun bringing to the track, I suggest you actually ATTEND a track event near you. See what types of cars show up and ask the owners for their particular input on how their car feels, etc.

A MR2 is also a pain to do engine work on, compared to the easier access for the RX-7.

krackerx7

iTrader: (1)

mr2-200hp-2900 lbs

S5 TII-200hp-2600 lbs

your asking the wrong forum not too many people are going to pick the mr2 here. but there both tight cars but i dont see or here of very fast mr2

flying taco

I got toasted by an MR2 turbo 2 sundays ago. Then again I'm running WAY rich (need to get that shizzit tuned) and was only boosting 2psi... damned cats.... This thing looked AWESOME though.... it had some really smooth, non-ricey body kit on it and an exhaust... i didn't get to see under the hood or anything.

Aaron

jacobcartmill

iTrader: (6)

I was checking out Mr2s (turbos of course) before i bought my TII and i realized that the TII is THE CHEAPEST sportscar to make fast. hell, full exhaust and intake gives you like 60 rwhp.
if you have a good running mr2 right now, sell it for 3 or 4 grand and get yourself a nice S4 TII that has good compression. you can use that money you were going to use on the jspec motor and spend it on a t04 turbo kit and a stand-alone engine management system (haltech maybe?)
you could go that route, but personally, what i would do is get a decent TII that has a:
good engine and turbo,
get a FMIC,
full exhaust and intake,
and an safc and some bigger secondaries.
your **** will be massive fast (and safer with those bigger injectors) without having to buy a new turbo and stand alone engine management.
you can get to about 240 whp (thats what opec had on his stock turbo) maximizing the stock turbo (13 or 14 psi) which is more than enough for me
i'd say you can do all of that for less than it would cost to get an mr2 turbo for, and it would be alot faster.

just my two cents

Erik

i think you got the weights reversed an S5 T2 weighs more than that...

jacobcartmill

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yeah, it weighs like 2850
and the mr2s weigh like 3000 or 3100 or something
they are by no means light for how small they are.

fstrnyou

My neighbor has a MR2 with a built motor($15K) but don't know what boost he's running. he gets about 8.7 in the 1/8. plenty fast for me. i have an 88 TII and it's currently my goal to beat him. right now i'm all stock and gets about 9.8 in the 1/8, 15.3 in 1/4.

Craig

CRXtoRX7

ACTUALLY:
mr2 turbo - 2822 to 2888 lbs depending on year

they are very similar cars as far as power to weight goes...

One of my friend has an 87 TII and another has a 91 na
Never driven a turbo MR2, but as far as handling, I feel more comfy in the fc, the MR2 seems to "fling" a little too much....or maybe it is because I drive a 92hp fwd honda and I don't know how to handle a midrear beast.

-Ben

PS It is fun to cruise with the t-tops off in MR2's You have to have the chick factor in mind too ya know!

CRXtoRX7

*correction*

the other friend has a 91 na mr2

2a+RoN

true. but i thought you didn't like the feeling of my car.

CRXtoRX7

I don't like the feeling of your car when you are driving it

CRXtoRX7

oh, and right now the feeling of your car could best be described as rrrrrrrrrrrrrrcoughrrrrrrcoughrrrrBAM!!rrrr

as compared to my:
ning nigngnngnngnggningingingingign click click click....

mr23sgte

thanks for all your reply's guys. i am probley going to sell my car for 5500. hopfully around there. and am going to try and by this https://www.rx7club.com/forum/showth...hreadid=129075 FC. because this is the pefectest opertunity for me. i live in bay area and am really looking forward to being a real rx-7 member

Daniel577h

you have any pictures of your car?
i want to see your mr2 picks



-danny

JZS147

like what dvls-7 said, its like comparing apples to oranges.

ive owned several mr2s, and now have access to every single jspec-swapped sw20s from gen 1 to gen 3. and until you've driven a gen 3, youll think that an mr2 is like every car out there.

but recently, i had the opportunity to drive an fc and its totally different. different feel, handling, and even the sound that it makes. im quite intrigued by it and im actually going to get one just to learn about the car -first-hand. since ive driven pretty much every turbo pistoned car out there, i thought id check out something new.

T24U

I have a friend that was running 12.7-12.9's with his MR2 Turbo. He upgraded the clutch, ignition system, installed a Greddy turbo kit, ARP head studs, boost controller, bigger injectors, etc. It's pretty fast and he has not even dyno tuned it. And not to mention the guy probably weighs about 250 pounds. I'm sure if a 150lb person drove it, after it was dyno tuned and everything maxed out it would probably be into the low 12's easily, maybe high 11's. It's damned nice.

vicious525E

ya, like previsously said they are two different animals. but in my opinion the tII has alot more potential(sp) for hp, i used to live next to a guy in pensacola who had a whole lot of money in his mr2 and all he was pushing was about 300 hpr, if i put the same amount in my tII im shure i could get 400 or maby even 500, they are kinda like two different strands of the same species, they both are excelent handeling and can make decent power, the tII just has one extra trick that the mr2's don't have and thats the 3 rotor...

mr23sgte

yeah i have actually driven an FD. tobad i cant afford one . they are so much faster and better than any car ive driven

jacobcartmill

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dont buy that car. i talked to someone who checked it out and he said it had somewhat low compression. he could be wrong though.

787B

i also wanted a MR-2 or a TURBO II, and I can tell you the TURBO II is a much better choice. The main reason is price, second is be different and get a rotary! everything on the road has a PIST-on engine! Also, mods are easy on a TII, they handle sweet, etc.