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03-25-03, 10:42 AM
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Here is my $.02. First off I love Monster Garage, when it’s Monday it’s a Monster Garage Monday!! For anyone who follows the series no matter what car that they do the price for failure is DEATH. Now I am not sure about why the Mini was not blown up but he lost to Petty so I think that was acceptable 
. Now, no doubt I was bummed that the 7 lost but you got to admit she went out in style. Tons better than the Hurst. I disagree when everyone is getting all hurt about trashing the car as if it was rare. Every time when I log on to cars.com or auto trader there is more S5 and S4 verts than you can shake a stick at. Now if they were to have done this to a TII, GTUs, or something like that then yeah I would understand everyone’s beef. Watch it again but have fun with it “it’s all good”, + you all know that you would jump at the chance to be on the show I know I would. 
ROCK ON JESSE JAMES!!!!
. Now, no doubt I was bummed that the 7 lost but you got to admit she went out in style. Tons better than the Hurst. I disagree when everyone is getting all hurt about trashing the car as if it was rare. Every time when I log on to cars.com or auto trader there is more S5 and S4 verts than you can shake a stick at. Now if they were to have done this to a TII, GTUs, or something like that then yeah I would understand everyone’s beef. Watch it again but have fun with it “it’s all good”, + you all know that you would jump at the chance to be on the show I know I would. ROCK ON JESSE JAMES!!!!
03-25-03, 11:05 AM
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Here is my $.02. First off I love Monster Garage, when it’s Monday it’s a Monster Garage Monday!! For anyone who follows the series no matter what car that they do the price for failure is DEATH. Now I am not sure about why the Mini was not blown up but he lost to Petty so I think that was acceptable. Now, no doubt I was bummed that the 7 lost but you got to admit she went out in style. Tons better than the Hurst. I disagree when everyone is getting all hurt about trashing the car as if it was rare. Every time when I log on to cars.com or auto trader there is more S5 and S4 verts than you can shake a stick at. Now if they were to have done this to a TII, GTUs, or something like that then yeah I would understand everyone’s beef. Watch it again but have fun with it “it’s all good”, + you all know that you would jump at the chance to be on the show I know I would. ROCK ON JESSE JAMES!!!!
Here is my $.02. First off I love Monster Garage, when it’s Monday it’s a Monster Garage Monday!! For anyone who follows the series no matter what car that they do the price for failure is DEATH. Now I am not sure about why the Mini was not blown up but he lost to Petty so I think that was acceptable
. Now, no doubt I was bummed that the 7 lost but you got to admit she went out in style. Tons better than the Hurst. I disagree when everyone is getting all hurt about trashing the car as if it was rare. Every time when I log on to cars.com or auto trader there is more S5 and S4 verts than you can shake a stick at. Now if they were to have done this to a TII, GTUs, or something like that then yeah I would understand everyone’s beef. Watch it again but have fun with it “it’s all good”, + you all know that you would jump at the chance to be on the show I know I would. ROCK ON JESSE JAMES!!!!
03-25-03, 11:22 AM
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Originally posted by skyypilot
To ALL of you who don't like verts....
How many times have you had a cute girl you didn't know walk up to you and ask for a ride in your COUPE? Be honest. The vert is a girl magnet, I have given so many rides I have lost count. And it is a great car, drive one that has been lightened and juiced up and you will see it is the next best thing to a Ferrari vert. If you can't put the top down, what's the point??
To ALL of you who don't like verts....
How many times have you had a cute girl you didn't know walk up to you and ask for a ride in your COUPE? Be honest. The vert is a girl magnet, I have given so many rides I have lost count. And it is a great car, drive one that has been lightened and juiced up and you will see it is the next best thing to a Ferrari vert. If you can't put the top down, what's the point??
AMEN, Brother!
03-25-03, 11:24 AM
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yes i did cringe when i saw the gun and knew what it ment. but i woud have taken a diff approach instead of adding teh wheel i would have put a lift kit on it and gotten dirt/ street tires so it can still look like a rx and still drive on teh sand. poor rx he will be missed. ::pours one for the rx homies::
03-25-03, 11:51 AM
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Originally posted by KNONFS
Last night show was even worst than the one with the floating bus!!
Last night show was even worst than the one with the floating bus!!
hahaha I found that one funny. Sall good, what is the saying? "Different strokes for different folks." To each his/her own.
03-25-03, 11:55 AM
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That was definately a poor design. Look at the "sand" that they raced on. If they left the car ontouched it would of done better. A lift kit with better tires would of done the trick. He stayed with those buggys at first. Also the show needed another loss, mini gun=better ratings.
03-25-03, 12:11 PM
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Originally posted by BRealistic
I don't know what your angle is, but anybody that tries to make a 1st gen look 'modern' is a dolt anyways. They are classics, and that is why 1st gens sell for more than n/a 2nd gens in the same condition. 1st gens are classics, 2nd gens are not.
I don't know what your angle is, but anybody that tries to make a 1st gen look 'modern' is a dolt anyways. They are classics, and that is why 1st gens sell for more than n/a 2nd gens in the same condition. 1st gens are classics, 2nd gens are not.
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03-25-03, 12:20 PM
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Originally posted by ajsuper7
i mean it could of been a worse episode, they could of used a fb that would of made great scrap metal, no more **** talking about fc's in the 2nd gen forum...go back to the 1st gen forum and pretend its the late 70's/early 80's and your car doesnt look like a joke
i mean it could of been a worse episode, they could of used a fb that would of made great scrap metal, no more **** talking about fc's in the 2nd gen forum...go back to the 1st gen forum and pretend its the late 70's/early 80's and your car doesnt look like a joke
thats the funniest thing i have read all day, lol
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03-25-03, 12:20 PM
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Originally posted by skyypilot
To ALL of you who don't like verts....
How many times have you had a cute girl you didn't know walk up to you and ask for a ride in your COUPE? Be honest. The vert is a girl magnet, I have given so many rides I have lost count. And it is a great car, drive one that has been lightened and juiced up and you will see it is the next best thing to a Ferrari vert. If you can't put the top down, what's the point??
To ALL of you who don't like verts....
How many times have you had a cute girl you didn't know walk up to you and ask for a ride in your COUPE? Be honest. The vert is a girl magnet, I have given so many rides I have lost count. And it is a great car, drive one that has been lightened and juiced up and you will see it is the next best thing to a Ferrari vert. If you can't put the top down, what's the point??
Now, I have nothing against verts, but let's face it. The S5 vert is a very common car, there's nothing special about them. And most are forgetting the fact that the show purchased the car from a wrecking yard. Therefore, it was slated to be crushed anyway. I think the "f*** Jesse" people need to grow up a little. If it had been a GTUs, '86 Sport, 10th AE or S5 TII, then I might have something different to say. But they didn't mutiliate one of them, they chose a vert. In fact, it was probably chosen for the fact that it was common and available...I wonder, how many of you have been to a wrecking yard? Do you **** and moan at the owner of the yard because there are RX-7s? I thought so...
Also, the comments made by Jesse were made out of ignorance. He is not a rotary engine expert; he is one of the best (or perhaps the best) chopper builders around. Like anyone else, he has misconceptions and misunderstandings about the RX-7 and the rotary. This is common, EVEN on this forum (wow, what a surprise). DEAL with it. I am willing to bet that 90% of the people on this forum who actually own RX-7s are driving them into the ground through improper maintenance, ignorance and improper modding. THESE are the people who we should be attacking.
So take the show for what it is: an entertaining hour of television. Unless you weep over every vehicle they chop up, sit down and shut your mouthes.
03-25-03, 12:30 PM
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Originally posted by Aaron Cake
And most are forgetting the fact that the show purchased the car from a wrecking yard. Therefore, it was slated to be crushed anyway.
And most are forgetting the fact that the show purchased the car from a wrecking yard. Therefore, it was slated to be crushed anyway.
I saw a behind the scene segment of the rx-7 episode where Jesse says that the producers of the show probably got the car from autotrader.
03-25-03, 12:32 PM
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What are you basing the verts are common comments statements on? The vert's are the least common of all 2nd gen body styles-of the 157,000 2nd gens built only 18,000 were verts. Don't have trim breakdown but do have stats from Mazda if anyone wants em.
03-25-03, 12:33 PM
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Re: Enough with the vert bashing
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....Second a vert can be made to go fast just as easily as the NA coupe. They handle just as well and already come with better suspension and brakes. Lastly when all the ricers and kiddies are done molesting RX7's, the convertibles will be the most valuable as collector cars, just as most convertibles in any car line are. Look at the Kelly blue book today, verts have higher resale.
....Second a vert can be made to go fast just as easily as the NA coupe. They handle just as well and already come with better suspension and brakes. Lastly when all the ricers and kiddies are done molesting RX7's, the convertibles will be the most valuable as collector cars, just as most convertibles in any car line are. Look at the Kelly blue book today, verts have higher resale.
There are several NA models that also have the better brakes and suspension, namely the Sport, GTU, GTUs, even the GXL has the brakes minus the sport suspension. The only reason that all verts have the upgraded parts is due to the fact that they were overweight and required it. In my area, California and Florida may be different, verts do not command a higher price tag because convertibles are not suited for the climate. Their rarity has no bearing on what people are willing to pay for them. Everyone knows that the Kelly Blue Book serves as a guide only, for the average private party sale it means diddly squat.
I happen to like the vert, but I won't sugar-coat the fact that the car was overweight and consequently under-powered. Why do you think that the vert sold in limited numbers here in the States, and there was no third generation convertible? RX-7 stands for performance, style is secondary.
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03-25-03, 12:36 PM
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Originally posted by maikeru
I curently have two rx7s one sport and the other a vert.
I have owned 5 other rx7s all series IV over the years including one TII. With the exception of the TII the vert blew all the others away in fun factor. The vert also handles better stock than the others did( not including the TII). The convertible is the one RX7 that I have owned that I will most likely keep for as long I live, especialy after seeing what Jesse Lames(misspelled purposely)did to that near prestine example. I will soon begin a TII swap in the convertible and I will have IMHO the best of both RX7 worlds. Before I got the vert I didn't think anymore fun could be had with an RX7, I was dead wrong. Others with verts know what I am talking about. Long live the RX7 convertible.
I curently have two rx7s one sport and the other a vert.
I have owned 5 other rx7s all series IV over the years including one TII. With the exception of the TII the vert blew all the others away in fun factor. The vert also handles better stock than the others did( not including the TII). The convertible is the one RX7 that I have owned that I will most likely keep for as long I live, especialy after seeing what Jesse Lames(misspelled purposely)did to that near prestine example. I will soon begin a TII swap in the convertible and I will have IMHO the best of both RX7 worlds. Before I got the vert I didn't think anymore fun could be had with an RX7, I was dead wrong. Others with verts know what I am talking about. Long live the RX7 convertible.
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03-25-03, 12:40 PM
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Originally posted by pmr2000
What are you basing the verts are common comments statements on? The vert's are the least common of all 2nd gen body styles-of the 157,000 2nd gens built only 18,000 were verts. Don't have trim breakdown but do have stats from Mazda if anyone wants em.
What are you basing the verts are common comments statements on? The vert's are the least common of all 2nd gen body styles-of the 157,000 2nd gens built only 18,000 were verts. Don't have trim breakdown but do have stats from Mazda if anyone wants em.
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03-25-03, 12:49 PM
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Originally posted by BlackSport0187
The convertible handles better stock than your Sport does? Please explain.
Isaac
The convertible handles better stock than your Sport does? Please explain.
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Nothing to explain, I experience tighter turns and less body roll in the vert. Overall a more nimble ride. Just my own experience. Once I get the TII swap done I will be lightening the car where I can and upgrading the suspension
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Re: Re: Enough with the vert bashing
Originally posted by BlackSport0187
How can a car that weighs hundreds of pounds more than an NA coupe coupled with less chassis rigidity overall, handle just as well? The whole key to making an NA second gen go fast easliy is via weight reduction. ITS FREE! This would pose a more difficult task for a heavier car, thus the vert cannot be "made to go fast just as easily."
There are several NA models that also have the better brakes and suspension, namely the Sport, GTU, GTUs, even the GXL has the brakes minus the sport suspension. The only reason that all verts have the upgraded parts is due to the fact that they were overweight and required it. In my area, California and Florida may be different, verts do not command a higher price tag because convertibles are not suited for the climate. Their rarity has no bearing on what people are willing to pay for them. Everyone knows that the Kelly Blue Book serves as a guide only, for the average private party sale it means diddly squat.
I happen to like the vert, but I won't sugar-coat the fact that the car was overweight and consequently under-powered. Why do you think that the vert sold in limited numbers here in the States, and there was no third generation convertible? RX-7 stands for performance, style is secondary.
Isaac
How can a car that weighs hundreds of pounds more than an NA coupe coupled with less chassis rigidity overall, handle just as well? The whole key to making an NA second gen go fast easliy is via weight reduction. ITS FREE! This would pose a more difficult task for a heavier car, thus the vert cannot be "made to go fast just as easily."
There are several NA models that also have the better brakes and suspension, namely the Sport, GTU, GTUs, even the GXL has the brakes minus the sport suspension. The only reason that all verts have the upgraded parts is due to the fact that they were overweight and required it. In my area, California and Florida may be different, verts do not command a higher price tag because convertibles are not suited for the climate. Their rarity has no bearing on what people are willing to pay for them. Everyone knows that the Kelly Blue Book serves as a guide only, for the average private party sale it means diddly squat.
I happen to like the vert, but I won't sugar-coat the fact that the car was overweight and consequently under-powered. Why do you think that the vert sold in limited numbers here in the States, and there was no third generation convertible? RX-7 stands for performance, style is secondary.
Isaac
My comment on value is based on the overall auto industry. Less built = rarer, rarer = higher prices and more collectible if the RX-7 gets there, convertibles are most always more expensive new. Obviously we all know the economics of value and car buying when we talk used anything.
03-25-03, 01:57 PM
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classics yees when restored. from my point of view ive never seen a 1st gen that didnt have atleast a few dents, faded paint and/or different color body parts, and a whole lotta rust...that is not a classic. and besides that they are sold for under 1500 dollars around here...thats why they out sell fc's. thus i dont think some kid from the first gen forum needs to badmouth fc's. i love all rx7's but if someone wants to make fun of them in our own territory im gonna respond.
i mean alot of these guys are right on, girls love the vert. i havent heard of too many stories of someone pulling up in a 84' rust bucket and having girls pile in...i think they would prolly just run away screaming and crying.
i mean alot of these guys are right on, girls love the vert. i havent heard of too many stories of someone pulling up in a 84' rust bucket and having girls pile in...i think they would prolly just run away screaming and crying.
03-25-03, 02:07 PM
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Yo,
The so-called "race" was a set up from the beginning. Why didn't they go to Glamis, sand capitol of the world and a hell of a lot closer to LA? Why did they go all the way out to Arizona?
Hmmm, maybe because Dillon Precision is located in Arizona. The folks with the minigun.
It was a ratings stunt like someone mentioned before. We need more drama, more action. Hey, a minigun! Yeah!
I still don't know if losing the race equates to failure, why didn't the Mini-Snowmobile get blown up? That thing was slow as hell. I still call BS on the whole thing.
I'm a little upset that they took a nice S5 Vert and destroyed it, but I'm more upset that folks within our own community are calling FC Verts crap. Instead of piling on with the insults, we should be supporting our topless brothers.
Kevin
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The so-called "race" was a set up from the beginning. Why didn't they go to Glamis, sand capitol of the world and a hell of a lot closer to LA? Why did they go all the way out to Arizona?
Hmmm, maybe because Dillon Precision is located in Arizona. The folks with the minigun.
It was a ratings stunt like someone mentioned before. We need more drama, more action. Hey, a minigun! Yeah!
I still don't know if losing the race equates to failure, why didn't the Mini-Snowmobile get blown up? That thing was slow as hell. I still call BS on the whole thing.
I'm a little upset that they took a nice S5 Vert and destroyed it, but I'm more upset that folks within our own community are calling FC Verts crap. Instead of piling on with the insults, we should be supporting our topless brothers.
Kevin
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03-25-03, 03:14 PM
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Yeah, it was intentional.
They had ever intention of blowing it up from the begining...
Ever other show I've seen, as long as it's done... they win- The Mini-snowmobile is the perfect example. That thing didn't stand a chance against a real snow-mobile, but they still rigged it to win (ie telling petty to let it win)...
EXACTLY!
Get over it people. Rating stunt. Why else would they use NX AND drive the car out to Arizona when Pismo or Glamis are 2 hours from LA.
I thought the mini-gun was ******* insane!
They had ever intention of blowing it up from the begining...
Ever other show I've seen, as long as it's done... they win- The Mini-snowmobile is the perfect example. That thing didn't stand a chance against a real snow-mobile, but they still rigged it to win (ie telling petty to let it win)...
The so-called "race" was a set up from the beginning. Why didn't they go to Glamis, sand capitol of the world and a hell of a lot closer to LA? Why did they go all the way out to Arizona?
Hmmm, maybe because Dillon Precision is located in Arizona. The folks with the minigun.
Hmmm, maybe because Dillon Precision is located in Arizona. The folks with the minigun.
Get over it people. Rating stunt. Why else would they use NX AND drive the car out to Arizona when Pismo or Glamis are 2 hours from LA.
I thought the mini-gun was ******* insane!
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Originally posted by Aaron Cake
You know what? If you base your self worth and the value of your car on how many "cute girls" ask you for a ride, you have some serious issues.
You know what? If you base your self worth and the value of your car on how many "cute girls" ask you for a ride, you have some serious issues.
The truth is that very few in either group actually base their self worth on these things.... It's just what we do for fun.
P.S. - Who's the chick with the hair?
P.P.S. - Do you think she'd want a ride in my 'vert?
