Kenteth

Just realised that was 1/5 pages, heres the rest...

Icemark

The other thing with MMO is the extreamly low flash point. Only 147F... that means it will not hold together as any sort of a lubricant at anything above 150F.

Heck, even the coolant gets above 150F.

Making MMO completely useless as any sort of premix at all. I guess if you wanted to lower the octane rating it might be usefull... but that's about it.

2ndGen.rocket

It's not classified per se, I guess that was a bad word. I work with the sheets all the time, and give the information to customers like GM and Ford. But it's not like you could just call us up and ask for a copy of one.

MountainTurbo

So then is there any point in even putting it in your oil as an adative? Doesn't the rotor housing get hotter than that on the inside?

CokeRx7

i think you are right MountainTurbo...
But MMO seems like a cleaning solution for ya engine more than a lubricant... I guess its like degreaser for grease.. degreaser takes care of grease when its on a hot surface and vaporates with little traces behind.. I mean.. i might just pick up some MMO stuff and put it in the tank everytime i fill up and get some primix that Tofuball makes.. but i think that's classified info.. :-D

dbgeek

Be very careful with stuff that contains "Chlorinated Hydrocarbons" = nasty crap in an engine! During normal combustion cycles, there are free hydrogens which we hope bond with Oxygen to form water. With free chlorine in there, they form HCl (hydrochloric acid) == BAD. There were many companies making "friction reducers" for engines back in the 60s/70s that contained chlorinated hydrocarbons because they WORK to reduce friction. Unfortunately, friction isn't the demon people think it is, as friction is independent of WEAR (the real Devil in an engine). I'm sure that MMO cleans internals very well, since it is creating an acid to help out, but I'd be very wary of using it on a continuous basis.

Pete

MichaelFregoe

iTrader: (1)

Without getting flamed. I use Synthetic 2-stroke oil. about 1/2 oz per gallon in addition to the stock oil metering system. It is made by Klotz. About $30 per gallon. I use a gallon per year total (summer season) in both my RX-7's.

WAYNE88N/A

Man, you can use it for whatever you want, it's your car. There is one thing to remember, however- MMO will THIN your oil.

I classify MMO in my own little brain cell as an extremely light low-temp lubricant, much like the little cans of 3-in-1 oil our grandmothers used to lubricate their sewing machines. Just as you would not use a low-temp light grease for lubricating your wheel bearings, I would not use a low-temp light oil to lubricate my engine.

Even though it's composed of mostly solvents, I wouldn't even use it as such- it doesn't evaporate readily, which is a property I look for in a good solvent....

Sometimes you have to perform your own research, and use that noggin the Man gave you, so you don't get sucked in to the latest "craze" and do something you may regret later

uRizen

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I don't see any reason to run MMO over a good TCW-3 mix. I use 16oz. of TCW-3 marine 2-cycle mix at every fill-up, and don't get the nasty 2-cycle smell, and my engine definatly runs smoother then it was with the traditional OMP system.

MichaelFregoe

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I like the 2-stroke oil smell (it must be the snowmobiler in me) It smells almost like race gas. (Klotz). You could even buy the 2-stroke oil that smells like rasberry (not that I would). I have smelled it from other peoples snowmobiles.

Tofuball

I dont MAKE premix, and it is not a secret mixture

Whenever I refill my tank, I always refill 15 gallons

15 gallons of gas needs 21oz of 100:1 premix.

So I get a 21oz soft-drink bottle, fill it with premix, and then put 4oz of MMO in it and it is filled exactly to the top.

Smells weird, but thats all it really is