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Old Sep 11, 2016 | 01:07 AM
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Manual Seatbelts

Can someone explain what parts are needed exactly to swap out the power seatbelts
in the S5 for manual?
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Old Sep 11, 2016 | 10:16 AM
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All you need are the belts with the retractor reel and the receiver.
And a shitton of patience/creativity.

Bolting in the belts is easy, it's a direct fit into existing bolt holes (how convenient).
Fitting the trim plastic is the tricky bit.

You must use your original trim, the S4 manual plastic will not fit properly.
Once you remove the mousetrack runner, there is nothing to fasten the A-pillar trim to anymore, so you'll have to figure something out there.
You'll need to cut a hole in the upper B-pillar trim to access the upper shoulder belt bolt and you'll need to trim the lower B-pillar trim- right where it meets the upper trim- to allow the belt from the retractor to come out.

You can use your center console (which you'll be removing to delete the big retractor reel) but it'll look a little odd after removing the reel because it has recesses that no longer make sense, but it's not a big deal.

I've made this conversion twice now and recommend you make life easy and BEGIN by removing the seats and all the plastic...it might appear to be overkill but really does make life simpler.
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Old Sep 11, 2016 | 11:32 AM
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Is this using your random junk yard donor car methodology or belts from an older RX7?
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Old Sep 11, 2016 | 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by TonyD89
Is this using your random junk yard donor car methodology or belts from an older RX7?
What's the difference between the two? They'd be the same age no matter where the car sits.
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Old Sep 11, 2016 | 11:47 AM
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All you need are the belts with the retractor reel and the receiver. And a shitton of patience/creativity. Bolting in the belts is easy, it's a direct fit into existing bolt holes (how convenient). Fitting the trim plastic is the tricky bit. You must use your original trim, the S4 manual plastic will not fit properly. Once you remove the mousetrack runner, there is nothing to fasten the A-pillar trim to anymore, so you'll have to figure something out there. You'll need to cut a hole in the upper B-pillar trim to access the upper shoulder belt bolt and you'll need to trim the lower B-pillar trim- right where it meets the upper trim- to allow the belt from the retractor to come out. You can use your center console (which you'll be removing to delete the big retractor reel) but it'll look a little odd after removing the reel because it has recesses that no longer make sense, but it's not a big deal. I've made this conversion twice now and recommend you make life easy and BEGIN by removing the seats and all the plastic...it might appear to be overkill but really does make life simpler.
Thanks for the post. I will probably wait to do this when I replace the carpet and seats. Sounds like a real hassle.
I have carpet coming. Need to find reclining aftermarket seats that fit the FC.
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Old Sep 11, 2016 | 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by TonyD89
Is this using your random junk yard donor car methodology or belts from an older RX7?
I used S4 manual belts, which, as stated, are direct bolt ins.
Refitting the plastics is the tricky part, the A-pillar trim being the most difficult (because you've removed all its mounting points).
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Old Sep 11, 2016 | 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by remydrm
What's the difference between the two? They'd be the same age no matter where the car sits.
I was referring to clokker's use of stuff from other vehicles and making them work in whatever project he's doing. Miata dash and HVAC in a 240 as an example.
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Old Sep 11, 2016 | 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by clokker
I used S4 manual belts, which, as stated, are direct bolt ins. Refitting the plastics is the tricky part, the A-pillar trim being the most difficult (because you've removed all its mounting points).
Have a set of s4 belts and hardware to share?
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Old Sep 11, 2016 | 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by remydrm
Have a set of s4 belts and hardware to share?
There hasn't been a FC in my yard for a few years now so, sorry, no.
I've never had to try belts from another donor (a fetish of mine that Tony cites), so I can't even recommend a potential workaround.

Canadian S5s had manual belts, maybe misterstyx has some in his famous shed?
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Old Sep 11, 2016 | 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by clokker
There hasn't been a FC in my yard for a few years now so, sorry, no. I've never had to try belts from another donor (a fetish of mine that Tony cites), so I can't even recommend a potential workaround. Canadian S5s had manual belts, maybe misterstyx has some in his famous shed?
Message sent to misterstyx. Thx
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Old Sep 11, 2016 | 02:48 PM
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S5 verts have manual belts, wouldn't those work?
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Old Sep 11, 2016 | 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by jjwalker
S5 verts have manual belts, wouldn't those work?
They'd be missing the upper mounting point, which is high on the B-pillar for my Canuck S5, wouldn't they? I not sure what the vert does in that regard.

Canadian S5s would give you complete interior trim and belts to get a more finished look, but like clokker said, rare to see these cars in yards anymore. I haven't seen one in years.
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Old Sep 11, 2016 | 08:42 PM
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Pm Received.
I got the belts..but somewhere..(ya,my organizational skills suck.)

I JUST got the 302 Swap going TODAY!..Yay!!!!...and am adamant on getting that going so I can at least get one meet in this year,hopefully.
I cannot promise you anything solid as far as parts right now,along with A GREEN looking for his Auto shifter..I have good intentions to let you know I have the parts but I may not be able to deliver as I am trying to get MY Lawn ornament out and driving!
All I can say if I see them I'll let ya know.
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Old Sep 11, 2016 | 09:52 PM
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@remydrm...bribe styxie with some Tim Horton's coupons.
Canadiens cannot resist them.
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Does someone need an auto shifter? I have one and know where it's at.
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Old Sep 11, 2016 | 11:04 PM
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Originally Posted by misterstyx69
Pm Received. I got the belts..but somewhere..(ya,my organizational skills suck.) All I can say if I see them I'll let ya know.
I've got my fingers crossed. I can pay in Timcard bucks!
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Old Sep 12, 2016 | 12:38 AM
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That's right, go for the jugular.
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Old Sep 12, 2016 | 06:58 AM
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That's right, go for the jugular.
I gave HILLARY that Coffee you sent me Clokker..
..uh..thanks?..
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Old Oct 17, 2016 | 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by misterstyx69
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I got the belts..but somewhere..(ya,my organizational skills suck.)
OK, I'm ready for those belts!!!
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Originally Posted by remydrm
OK, I'm ready for those belts!!!
crap!..I knew someone wanted those..I spied them looking for a damn surround!
Again..yay..only one Styx and 14 freakin things to do with one body..
I'll peak again..
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Old Feb 24, 2017 | 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by misterstyx69
crap!..I knew someone wanted those..I spied them looking for a damn surround!
Again..yay..only one Styx and 14 freakin things to do with one body..
I'll peak again..
I'm still waiting!!! lol
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I'm still waiting!!! lol
He's on Canadian time. But if it means anything, Dave's really sorry, eh?
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