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Old Oct 18, 2007 | 11:08 PM
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major issue i need serious help.

my car was starting to over heat, so i killed it right away bf it got crazy. it was leeking antifreez from the overflow. so i changed the thermostate, and refilled the radior and such with fluid. the car ran fine for about and hour or so, at perfect temp as always, and then it began to over heat again? what else can it be, info ideas, sugestions?
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Old Oct 18, 2007 | 11:11 PM
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clogged radiator, slipping belt, bad waterpump.
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Old Oct 18, 2007 | 11:13 PM
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what belt would it be? what type of themostate should i use, waterpump? how can i tell if my radiator clogged?
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Old Oct 18, 2007 | 11:23 PM
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If its purging coolant into the overflow for no apparent reason.... might be a bad coolant seal... cross your fingers though.

Also.. use an OEM thermostat ONLY. Do not use auto-parts-store thermostats.

Do you have any visible leaks other than the overflow?
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Old Oct 18, 2007 | 11:54 PM
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Originally Posted by micaheli
If its purging coolant into the overflow for no apparent reason.... might be a bad coolant seal... cross your fingers though.

Also.. use an OEM thermostat ONLY. Do not use auto-parts-store thermostats.

Do you have any visible leaks other than the overflow?
nope just the overflow, so i should go to mazda tomorrow and get an oem one, would my coolant seal go that bad that fast?
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Old Oct 19, 2007 | 12:02 AM
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nope just the overflow, so i should go to mazda tomorrow and get an oem one, would my coolant seal go that bad that fast?
It CAN.. and yes.. getting an OEM thermostat is a great idea!
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Old Oct 19, 2007 | 12:05 AM
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i'm gonna vote coolant seal...
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Old Oct 19, 2007 | 12:08 AM
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how much would that cost to fix/ how hard.
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Old Oct 19, 2007 | 12:13 AM
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Its a rebuild.. and you are looking 900+

900 if you do it yourself.

More like 2500 realistically.
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Old Oct 19, 2007 | 12:14 AM
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if it comes to that anyone wana buy a 10th a.e
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Old Oct 19, 2007 | 01:15 AM
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If you do a soft seal rebuild and you do it yourself expet to pay less than $500. Including fluids and new hoses. Assuming you dont destroy the bearings and you dont NEED apex seals etc.
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Old Oct 19, 2007 | 01:18 AM
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clogged radiator?
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Old Oct 19, 2007 | 02:25 AM
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man, ya'll assume the worst! That seems to be the case with rotaries though! "low compression! bad coolant seal!"

my vote is a shot water pump! it's easy to check for the former two problems, but definitely don;t get anything other than an OEM thermostat!
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Old Oct 19, 2007 | 02:33 AM
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Try changing the rad cap? Also, definetly get a OEM thermostat.
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Old Oct 19, 2007 | 08:34 AM
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Well, that took a while... ^

Rad cap...OEM only. Easy to replace. If the pressure valve on it went bad, it would leak to the overflow and not keep the pressure at 13psi like it's supposed to. I'd do this first, since it's so easy, before moving on to other causes.

To check the coolant seals, start the car with the cap off and the engine cold. See if you get a **** load of bubbles (like champagne wine). If you do, check compression. But first, change the cap.
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Old Oct 19, 2007 | 08:45 AM
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get oem thermostat make sure u burp the system u could have a bubble stuck at the thermostat that would keep the system from cycling through which would make it dump into the overflow (had that problem)
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Old Oct 19, 2007 | 09:13 AM
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Basically, this is what you're looking at for a list of causes:
  • Blocked radiator
    1. Corrosion or sediment buildup
  • Air added to system
    1. Boiling coolant
      1. Slipping/bad water pump
      2. Bad thermostat
    2. Bad coolant seals on block

To check for a blocked radiator: with engine cool, remove upper fill cap near thermostat, and start car. When engine reaches op. temp., coolant should flow freely through the neck without overflowing. If clogged, backflush and clean your system. If coolant never starts to flow through the neck and the reservoir starts overflowing again, the thermostat is not opening or your water pump is shot beyond all definitions of the word "shot".

Your water pump could be slipping and allowing the system to overheat. This is often caused by loose belts, or a missing belt if your air pump was removed. Tighten belts or add the duel alternator pulley if the air pump is gone. The water pump can also be bad, but almost always it will leak through the weep hole if this is the case. You said you replaced the thermostat, so that's unlikely to be the culprit unless you installed some weird 'performance' replacement.

Coolant seals can be checked for as explained in an earlier post.
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Old Oct 19, 2007 | 10:21 AM
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****.. forgot the rad cap. I jump to conclusions...

Compression tests are like AIDS tests..... You want to know the results, but you don't.. That's why I always jump to that conclusion. Get it out of the way first. If you have good compression, you can have peace of mind.

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Old Oct 19, 2007 | 01:44 PM
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how can i do a compression check. also how can i unclog my radior, there was some crossion on the upper radior hose when i took it off, also there was no coolant in it..
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Old Oct 19, 2007 | 01:46 PM
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i used a pep boys themostat thats set for 180deg.
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Old Oct 19, 2007 | 01:46 PM
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so now can someone tell me step by step what should i do.
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Old Oct 19, 2007 | 01:47 PM
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from least expensve to most lol
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