Lubricating S5 Air Pump?
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Lubricating S5 Air Pump?
Yo,
My air pump is making some noise, anyway to throw some oil into that bitch to make it shut up?
Thanks in advance!
Kevin
1989 GTUs "Banshee under the hood."
My air pump is making some noise, anyway to throw some oil into that bitch to make it shut up?
Thanks in advance!
Kevin
1989 GTUs "Banshee under the hood."
What R U thinking self?
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Ya, thats what the sticker says... hmm never tried it. It's not just the belt is it?
you live close enough to th mazda recyclers down the road, they should sell you another pump cheap, if they can't be fixed. It just might take you a month to clean it up
you live close enough to th mazda recyclers down the road, they should sell you another pump cheap, if they can't be fixed. It just might take you a month to clean it up
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Take the pump apart and figure out what the problem is. Its not hard by any means, they are a simple 3-vane ratory pump.
If you have never seen a rotary-vane pump, you might find it kind of cool.
If you have never seen a rotary-vane pump, you might find it kind of cool.
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I had a similar problem on the TII. I took the pump off and sprayed a **** load of silicone spray in there. Then I rotated the pulley on the pump and a lot of brown dirt and **** came oozing out. Repeat this process a few times and it should clear it up pretty good.
-Seth
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Originally posted by Triangle Power
I had a similar problem on the TII. I took the pump off and sprayed a **** load of silicone spray in there. Then I rotated the pulley on the pump and a lot of brown dirt and **** came oozing out. Repeat this process a few times and it should clear it up pretty good.
-Seth
I had a similar problem on the TII. I took the pump off and sprayed a **** load of silicone spray in there. Then I rotated the pulley on the pump and a lot of brown dirt and **** came oozing out. Repeat this process a few times and it should clear it up pretty good.
-Seth
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Mine was squeaking and sqwuaking, generally making a racket, as was mentioned it is a rotary-vane pump really cool how they work, but back to the question:
I also saw the do not oil label so, What I did was to take it apart, clean the center shaft, lubricate it with a small amount of white lithium grease, just enough as you don't want it flying everywhere!
As for the vanes (they are usually the ones making the noise), I cleaned them with a cloth soaked in brake clean, then wiped a molylibdium (spelling?) boundary grease into the wall of the pump where the vanes touch. With this type of grease you rub it on then remove all that you can and what happens is a small amount gets into the pores of the metal and acts as the lubticant.
Then, reassemble!
Now the pump spins very freely, quiet as can be, with very good air flow.
I also saw the do not oil label so, What I did was to take it apart, clean the center shaft, lubricate it with a small amount of white lithium grease, just enough as you don't want it flying everywhere!
As for the vanes (they are usually the ones making the noise), I cleaned them with a cloth soaked in brake clean, then wiped a molylibdium (spelling?) boundary grease into the wall of the pump where the vanes touch. With this type of grease you rub it on then remove all that you can and what happens is a small amount gets into the pores of the metal and acts as the lubticant.
Then, reassemble!
Now the pump spins very freely, quiet as can be, with very good air flow.
What R U thinking self?
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From: Stockton, CA
Originally posted by asherwood
Mine was squeaking and sqwuaking, generally making a racket, as was mentioned it is a rotary-vane pump really cool how they work, but back to the question:
I also saw the do not oil label so, What I did was to take it apart, clean the center shaft, lubricate it with a small amount of white lithium grease, just enough as you don't want it flying everywhere!
As for the vanes (they are usually the ones making the noise), I cleaned them with a cloth soaked in brake clean, then wiped a molylibdium (spelling?) boundary grease into the wall of the pump where the vanes touch. With this type of grease you rub it on then remove all that you can and what happens is a small amount gets into the pores of the metal and acts as the lubticant.
Then, reassemble!
Now the pump spins very freely, quiet as can be, with very good air flow.
Mine was squeaking and sqwuaking, generally making a racket, as was mentioned it is a rotary-vane pump really cool how they work, but back to the question:
I also saw the do not oil label so, What I did was to take it apart, clean the center shaft, lubricate it with a small amount of white lithium grease, just enough as you don't want it flying everywhere!
As for the vanes (they are usually the ones making the noise), I cleaned them with a cloth soaked in brake clean, then wiped a molylibdium (spelling?) boundary grease into the wall of the pump where the vanes touch. With this type of grease you rub it on then remove all that you can and what happens is a small amount gets into the pores of the metal and acts as the lubticant.
Then, reassemble!
Now the pump spins very freely, quiet as can be, with very good air flow.
How much if I send you my pump... sounds good. 
-Robert
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Its really easy actually... all these things are is a "eccentric shaft" with (3) 1-piece apex seals. I don't even recall there beign any gaskets.
Just pop the end off and you'll see what we're talking about. Its really very simple.
Just pop the end off and you'll see what we're talking about. Its really very simple.
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Yo,
I like you.
If you pay shipping, I'll send you a pair of (good working N/A) air pumps for you to take apart and tinker with.
====> For the pursuit of knowledge!
Sean
A couple RX-7's
"If a goat were on fire, I'd get a wheelbarrow".
I like you.
If you pay shipping, I'll send you a pair of (good working N/A) air pumps for you to take apart and tinker with.
====> For the pursuit of knowledge!
Sean
A couple RX-7's
"If a goat were on fire, I'd get a wheelbarrow".
I have a squeaking sound that occurs when the car is warmed up. I tried replacing the idler bearings, fan, tighted belts, and did the water pump last Dec. Does the air pump cause this noise??
Jim D
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Originally posted by jdonnell
I have a squeaking sound that occurs when the car is warmed up. I tried replacing the idler bearings, fan, tighted belts, and did the water pump last Dec. Does the air pump cause this noise??
Jim D
I have a squeaking sound that occurs when the car is warmed up. I tried replacing the idler bearings, fan, tighted belts, and did the water pump last Dec. Does the air pump cause this noise??
Jim D
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From: London, Ontario, Canada
Originally posted by j9fd3s
yah i was just gonna suggest that, i used wd40 i think though.
yah i was just gonna suggest that, i used wd40 i think though.
Originally posted by asherwood
Shut off the car, temporarily remove the belt that drives the air pump, fire it back up...you'll know soon enough!
Shut off the car, temporarily remove the belt that drives the air pump, fire it back up...you'll know soon enough!
Where do you buy that grease? I haven't seen it. Also, can you get the air pump out without removing the upper water hose or air box tube???
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Originally posted by jdonnell
Boy I'm stupid, I didnt think of that. Good idea
Where do you buy that grease? I haven't seen it. Also, can you get the air pump out without removing the upper water hose or air box tube???
Boy I'm stupid, I didnt think of that. Good idea
Where do you buy that grease? I haven't seen it. Also, can you get the air pump out without removing the upper water hose or air box tube???
I got the tube I have from work, I'm not sure but there must be something similar out there available.
As for the air pump removal, "without upper water hose" yes, "without airbox tube" maybe, but it will be a lot faster just to take the air box out, there is not too much to it.
Thanks for the info asherwood. Once i find the molly grease I'll give it a try. Will the Lithium grease work? I guess I'll quit asking stupid questions once I pull the pump out and play with it. After working on my Probe all weekend I've lost enthusiasm for tearing into things.
I got the air pump off and trying to diassemble it. On the rear cap I removed the bolts but the cap wont come off. Do I need to remove the round thing on the shaft first on the front of the pump (where the pulley bolts to (3 bolts))???If so, how? Why wont the rear cap come off?
Jim D
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