Was looking into rebuild....
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Was looking into rebuild....
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Part Name Description Part Number Price
ROTOR KIT 13B 86-92 MZTX-13-ROTORL $878.50
Almost NINE HUNDRED DOLLARS!!!! This is incredible...an absurdity!!!
Where/how can you rebuild for cheap? (cheaper)
-jayson
Part Name Description Part Number Price
ROTOR KIT 13B 86-92 MZTX-13-ROTORL $878.50
Almost NINE HUNDRED DOLLARS!!!! This is incredible...an absurdity!!!
Where/how can you rebuild for cheap? (cheaper)
-jayson
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is it for turbo or n/a?? if it's for turbo you can get a j-spec for around that much. the price that you have there i think is just for the rebuild kit. not for the rebuild itself or instalation.
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thats just the kit!!! are you two talking about buying a rebuilt motor or having someone doing a rebuild? i mean, i jsut can't believe that they charge that much for the parts. i always hear about the simplicity of rebuilding a rotary motor and how few moving parts it has...but if all the seals and whatnot cost that much.....damn...
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Rebuild kit: $698.25 (shipping not included)
Here's what you get:
Gasket Set, Rotor Bearings, Front Main Seal, Inner & Outer Oil O-rings, Main Bearings, Rear Main Seal, Apex Seals and Springs, Side Seal Springs, Corner Seal Plugs, Corner Seal Springs, and
Thermo Pellet (13B 86+) All Genuine Mazda Parts.
Rebuild kit: $698.25 (shipping not included)
Here's what you get:
Gasket Set, Rotor Bearings, Front Main Seal, Inner & Outer Oil O-rings, Main Bearings, Rear Main Seal, Apex Seals and Springs, Side Seal Springs, Corner Seal Plugs, Corner Seal Springs, and
Thermo Pellet (13B 86+) All Genuine Mazda Parts.
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thx Vroom...thats better than 900 at least.
All in all though, I'm jsut kinda "ugh" about it. Last month I totally rebuilt a Honda D16 for the hatch, new seals and gaskets throughout, and a set of Total Seal rings, and it was still like half of what this looks like its going to cost.
All in all though, I'm jsut kinda "ugh" about it. Last month I totally rebuilt a Honda D16 for the hatch, new seals and gaskets throughout, and a set of Total Seal rings, and it was still like half of what this looks like its going to cost.
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breakdown:
Gasket Set, Rear Main Seal, Front Main Seal
~$3.00 in gasket material
Rotor Bearings, Main Bearings
total ~$40.00
Inner & Outer Oil O-rings
~$2.00
Apex Seals and Springs, Side Seal Springs, Corner Seal Plugs, Corner Seal Springs
~$60.00
Thermo Pellet
? not much
So the grand total is $105-150.00? what a joke, just order the pieces individually and save $500.00 unless there's something i'm missing.
Gasket Set, Rear Main Seal, Front Main Seal
~$3.00 in gasket material
Rotor Bearings, Main Bearings
total ~$40.00
Inner & Outer Oil O-rings
~$2.00
Apex Seals and Springs, Side Seal Springs, Corner Seal Plugs, Corner Seal Springs
~$60.00
Thermo Pellet
? not much
So the grand total is $105-150.00? what a joke, just order the pieces individually and save $500.00 unless there's something i'm missing.
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This needs posting periodically-
There is NO SET definition of a "Rebuild Kit" !!
Every vendor puts a different combination of parts in their "kit".
We include (in our Rotor Kits) ALL parts that go on a pair of rotors --
We do not include a gasket set (lets us maintain many fewer Rotor Kit part numbers).
Racing Beat includes what we do, + a gasket set
RR includes bearings in their "kit" - we do not, nor does RB
RR does NOT INCLUDE oil control rings ($203 for the set)
RR does NOT INCLUDE side seals ($115 for the set - depends on year)
RR has good prices - their "kit" is $596? - I priced out the same parts, our cost = $592?
Want a cheap "Rebuild Kit"?? how about $91.56 (8 water seals) -
but then you should just buy the 81-82 gasket set ($90.85) - get those seals + much more.
Bottom line (PLEASE!), do NOT compare the "price" of a "Rebuild Kit" from different vendors! Be aware of what is included, and compare the total of THOSE prices.
Most vendors sell ALL those parts individually - maybe you do not want all the parts in
ANY vendors "kit" ???
We use all the parts in our Rotor Kits on every engine we build --
You can decide which specific parts you want for your rebuild.
There is NO SET definition of a "Rebuild Kit" !!
Every vendor puts a different combination of parts in their "kit".
We include (in our Rotor Kits) ALL parts that go on a pair of rotors --
We do not include a gasket set (lets us maintain many fewer Rotor Kit part numbers).
Racing Beat includes what we do, + a gasket set
RR includes bearings in their "kit" - we do not, nor does RB
RR does NOT INCLUDE oil control rings ($203 for the set)
RR does NOT INCLUDE side seals ($115 for the set - depends on year)
RR has good prices - their "kit" is $596? - I priced out the same parts, our cost = $592?
Want a cheap "Rebuild Kit"?? how about $91.56 (8 water seals) -
but then you should just buy the 81-82 gasket set ($90.85) - get those seals + much more.
Bottom line (PLEASE!), do NOT compare the "price" of a "Rebuild Kit" from different vendors! Be aware of what is included, and compare the total of THOSE prices.
Most vendors sell ALL those parts individually - maybe you do not want all the parts in
ANY vendors "kit" ???
We use all the parts in our Rotor Kits on every engine we build --
You can decide which specific parts you want for your rebuild.
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Well seeing as how I would not know what this motor will truely "need" until it is fully taken apart, I cannot buy jsut individual parts. Thats why I felt that a "kit" would be the better route. Besides, while its out, why not relpace everything. My question these gaskets cost this damn much?????
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If you're bitching at the price, go get another car...preferably something domestic.
"Import" parts costs are going to be in the "thousands".  Ever price engine parts for a Toyota or a Honda?  They can break $1,000 real quick.
Ever prices EUROPEAN engine parts?  They can break $5k EASILY.
Yes, you can get a complete domestic V8 "rebuild" kit for under $1,000 (pistons, rings, valves, etc.).  These parts are made locally (no tariffs) from aftermarket suppliers (no, I am not aware of anyone offering quality aftermarket Mazda rotary engine parts) catering to a huge market.
-Ted
"Import" parts costs are going to be in the "thousands".  Ever price engine parts for a Toyota or a Honda?  They can break $1,000 real quick.
Ever prices EUROPEAN engine parts?  They can break $5k EASILY.
Yes, you can get a complete domestic V8 "rebuild" kit for under $1,000 (pistons, rings, valves, etc.).  These parts are made locally (no tariffs) from aftermarket suppliers (no, I am not aware of anyone offering quality aftermarket Mazda rotary engine parts) catering to a huge market.
-Ted
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