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Old Oct 4, 2009 | 02:51 AM
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Long drive in the FC tomorrow, anything i forgotten?

Alright so after many issues with this turbo kit im taking it to the supplier/rotary specialist that is 1600kms away (am also going down to see megadeth and slayer ) The car is running fairly rich at the moment as its a bit out of tune so im taking a spare set of plugs incase by some chance they foul. My list of **** so far includes

Toolbox
Zip Ties
100mph tape
12v lead light
5L Oil
5L Coolant
4L premix
Fuses
20L jerry can (incase i cant find 98 octane when i need it)
4 B9EGV plugs

So can you guys think of anything i should be taken?
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Old Oct 4, 2009 | 03:02 AM
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looks good except for the spare engine and spare transmission (j/k)
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Old Oct 4, 2009 | 03:57 AM
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Fire extinguisher. I never go anywhere without it!
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Old Oct 4, 2009 | 04:05 AM
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Oh i permenantly have a fire extinguisher and a fire blanket in the car. I also added jumper leads. I do have my jack and spare wheel in the car too, not one of these ppl that "save weight" by removing it lol.
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Old Oct 4, 2009 | 09:43 PM
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Duct tape.
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Old Oct 4, 2009 | 09:59 PM
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list looks good mate, thats about what i had when i drove 1800kms home with my FC. i know it sounds a bit crazy but id take a spare SPARE set of plugs, i fouled up a set at a rest stop and just barely managed to get to the next town and bought new ones (who woulda thought an autoparts store would stock rotary plugs?) when i got home and pulled em out, they were already shitted up from running rich. Just a thought though.
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Old Oct 4, 2009 | 11:06 PM
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Hmmm.
Today I made the round trip from Denver to Casper, Wy...600 miles.
I prepared by stocking a Visa card and $100 cash.

If your car is so sketchy that you need to pack a spare car as backup, perhaps you should consider the bus.
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Old Oct 4, 2009 | 11:29 PM
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if it makes you feel better im driving mine 2marrow from cheyenne wy to tampa florida
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Old Oct 5, 2009 | 05:12 AM
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a spare ******* tire?!
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Old Oct 5, 2009 | 06:53 AM
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Originally Posted by clokker
If your car is so sketchy that you need to pack a spare car as backup, perhaps you should consider the bus.
New to turbo rotary i take it?
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Old Oct 5, 2009 | 07:15 AM
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Originally Posted by ifryrice
New to turbo rotary i take it?
No, and not new to owning old(er) cars either.

There seems to be a particular skitzophrenia about rotaries around here...
If someone mentions a V-8 swap to gain power and reliability, they get gang-jumped with cries of how excellent the rotary engine is and yet mention a long trip in one and the advice is to pack as though it's a Mars expedition.

On one hand it's the world's most exotic and clever design, on the other, it shouldn't be trusted to make it to the corner gas station.

Mazda built and marketed the RX as a luxury GT- the GT standing for "grand touring", BTW- and fully expected that folks would- and could- hop in a drive anywhere, anytime.
Properly maintained, I don't see why that isn't still the case.
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Old Oct 5, 2009 | 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted by clokker
No, and not new to owning old(er) cars either.

There seems to be a particular skitzophrenia about rotaries around here...
If someone mentions a V-8 swap to gain power and reliability, they get gang-jumped with cries of how excellent the rotary engine is and yet mention a long trip in one and the advice is to pack as though it's a Mars expedition.

On one hand it's the world's most exotic and clever design, on the other, it shouldn't be trusted to make it to the corner gas station.

Mazda built and marketed the RX as a luxury GT- the GT standing for "grand touring", BTW- and fully expected that folks would- and could- hop in a drive anywhere, anytime.
Properly maintained, I don't see why that isn't still the case.
The RX7 certainly didn't fit with GT characteristics upon release. It's almost always been considered a sport compact distinctly giving up luxury for performance. The problem is their design makes them even more susceptible to failures than a lot of other similar vehicles often with catastrophic results. If it was N/A i'd agree they're generally reliable. Turbo rotary on the other hand just likes to be short lived.
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Old Oct 5, 2009 | 08:31 AM
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New to turbo rotary i take it?
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Turbo rotary on the other hand just likes to be short lived.

Just tell clokker he need a rebuild. And the OP too.
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Old Oct 5, 2009 | 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted by jackhild59
Just tell clokker he need a rebuild. And the OP too.
Don't be hating because I was right.
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Old Oct 5, 2009 | 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted by ifryrice
The RX7 certainly didn't fit with GT characteristics upon release. It's almost always been considered a sport compact distinctly giving up luxury for performance.
A car that came standard (except for the base model) with power steering, AC, power sunroof, power windows and locks was giving up luxury for performance?

Seems like an odd path to take.
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Old Oct 5, 2009 | 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by jackhild59
Just tell clokker he need a rebuild. And the OP too.
I do need a rebuild.
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Old Oct 5, 2009 | 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by clokker
A car that came standard (except for the base model) with power steering, AC, power sunroof, power windows and locks was giving up luxury for performance?

Seems like an odd path to take.
Powering steering was only standard on two models, and optional on the third. Power windows were only on 2 of the 6 models. A/C was optional on all but 2. I'm almost positive the locks had a similar pattern as well. Sunroof was only on 3 of the models. And that's just the second gens, dare we mention the fugly first gens?
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Old Oct 5, 2009 | 09:22 AM
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Dont forget to take extra belts!!!!!!!
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Old Oct 5, 2009 | 09:36 AM
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Don't be hating because I was right.
Great response, I like it.

I think the jury is still out. And poor li'l shoshane is so chicken little (ie, young, inexperienced, freaked-out, no resources etc) that he is never going to properly troubleshoot the symptom to discover the problem.

And I ain't a hater, I just like to challenge the unthinking mind. Easy pat answers are seldom best answers.

The FC is a Japanese car. It should be driven like a car. This discussion shouldn't be the inherent reliability or the class in which the FC was intended to compete in the 1980's.

In this case, we should assess the OP's actual risk and prepare accordingly.


The OP has a modified car with a turbo kit that is trouble. He doesn't need extra lugnuts or spare radio antennas or most anything he is planning to take. His risk is directly related to the overall condition of the car (which only he knows) and the trouble being caused by the turbo kit.

I think he should take:
another set of plugs (8 plugs) ,
the gas (just so any crash will make the national news)
The fire extinguisher
And I would advise the Aussie version of AAA for a free tow if the car breaks

-jack
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Old Oct 5, 2009 | 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by jackhild59
I think the jury is still out. And poor li'l shoshane is so chicken little (ie, young, inexperienced, freaked-out, no resources etc) that he is never going to properly troubleshoot the symptom to discover the problem.
I dunno why he just wouldn't unbolt the manifold, takes about 10 minutes. Oh well, the bandaid fix was almost a giveaway though.

Originally Posted by jackhild59
And I ain't a hater, I just like to challenge the unthinking mind. Easy pat answers are seldom best answers.
Doesn't stop them from being right though!

Originally Posted by jackhild59
I think he should take:
another set of plugs (8 plugs) ,
the gas (just so any crash will make the national news)
The fire extinguisher
And I would advise the Aussie version of AAA for a free tow if the car breaks

-jack
And a grill, incase he runs over a roo on the way. Skippy burgers are win!
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Old Oct 5, 2009 | 05:18 PM
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good luck! sounds like you got this **** ready to go!
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Old Oct 6, 2009 | 08:29 AM
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Old Oct 6, 2009 | 09:33 AM
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He was probably waylaid by brigands and bound with the duct tape ya'll told him to carry.

Duct tape is evil.
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Old Oct 6, 2009 | 05:23 PM
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hope you remember to bring a ratchet and socket for the plugs... that would suck
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Old Oct 9, 2009 | 07:43 PM
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The car made there and back without any real dramas (aside from one of the vac lines to the BOV melting but thats no issue) and as for the guy saying i shoulda taken plugs, i did. Car left with about 240hp came back with 415. And i had 100mph tape, its like the hardcore duct tape lol and yeah the stuff for my plugs were in my tool kit. Anyway the car was getting around 10 - 12L per 100km which is what my dad gets on the highway in his ls1 monaro, so i was stoked.
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