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Old Feb 13, 2004 | 07:22 PM
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How much is it for a line lock?Where can I get one for my TII?
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Old Feb 13, 2004 | 07:40 PM
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not sure, but try summit racing.
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Old Feb 13, 2004 | 07:46 PM
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Do you mean a proportioning valve, so you can shut off the back brakes?

If so:


http://www.speedwaymotors.com/xq/asp...qx/product.htm

http://www.speedwaymotors.com/xq/asp...qx/product.htm
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Old Feb 13, 2004 | 07:48 PM
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well .. the product is called a line lock.. but yeah, they lock the front breaks on and free up the back. And those products arent them ... but those are cool!
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Old Feb 13, 2004 | 08:02 PM
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i think hurst makes the line lock brand check their website
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Old Feb 13, 2004 | 08:13 PM
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summit jegs ebay
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Old Feb 13, 2004 | 08:45 PM
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thanks for the sites would any of them work on an FC?
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Old Feb 13, 2004 | 09:26 PM
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A line lock is a remote electronic solenoid that can close a brake line system.  How it usually works is you stand on the brakes as hard as you can, hit the switch on the line lock to close the solenoid, and then let go of the brakes.  Now, your front brakes are "locked" and you can proceed to do your burn out - the locked front brakes keeps the car in place during the burn out.

Now, the stock FC brake system (non-ABS) runs three brake lines off the brake master cylinder.  You need to clamp/install the line lock on the FRONT TWO LINES.  The third brake line goes to both rear brakes.  If you use only one line lock, you need to Y the front lines off the brake master cylinder and then split them back out to the brake calipers - this is a royal pain in the ***, and *I* feel it's unsafe and a bad way to compromise your braking system.  What I recommend is to run TWO line locks for each front brake (caliper).  This increases cost, but *I* feel it's a much better install.  Cost is increased, as you need to buy two line locks.  Just wire a single switch into both line locks for control.


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Old Feb 13, 2004 | 09:42 PM
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A line lock is a remote electronic solenoid that can close a brake line system.  How it usually works is you stand on the brakes as hard as you can, hit the switch on the line lock to close the solenoid, and then let go of the brakes.  Now, your front brakes are "locked" and you can proceed to do your burn out - the locked front brakes keeps the car in place during the burn out.

Now, the stock FC brake system (non-ABS) runs three brake lines off the brake master cylinder.  You need to clamp/install the line lock on the FRONT TWO LINES.  The third brake line goes to both rear brakes.  If you use only one line lock, you need to Y the front lines off the brake master cylinder and then split them back out to the brake calipers - this is a royal pain in the ***, and *I* feel it's unsafe and a bad way to compromise your braking system.  What I recommend is to run TWO line locks for each front brake (caliper).  This increases cost, but *I* feel it's a much better install.  Cost is increased, as you need to buy two line locks.  Just wire a single switch into both line locks for control.


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Whats the cheapest it would cost for two line locks and instalation kits?
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Old Feb 14, 2004 | 01:27 AM
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Check out Summit Racing or Jegs for prices on the line lock; I think it's like $100 each?
If you can get the lines locally, it might be cheaper.
Summit Racing and Jegs both do offer relocation kits which are like $20 - $30 each.
You'll also need a double flare tool, and this can get expensive - I've priced them like around $100 for this tool.  If you can borrow it from someone, that'll save you a lot of money.  Oh, you also need a pipe cutter, but these you can get pretty cheap from like Home Depot.


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Old Feb 14, 2004 | 08:54 AM
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Why wouldn't you just use ONE of those proportioning vavle's and put it on your rear brake line. Then shut it off, and you only have front brakes....

Seems ALOT easier, and soounds cheaper. Plus one of those proportioning valves I posted has a cable that you can put on it, and you run the cable to the dash or were ever, and put the vavle under the car, or right off of the master cylinder....
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Old Feb 14, 2004 | 09:49 AM
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Or just dont dragrace...and take your car to a real racetrack ...
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Old Feb 14, 2004 | 10:41 AM
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Uhhhmmm, drag racing is a "real" track.


And how do you know he wants if for drag racing?
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Old Feb 14, 2004 | 10:45 AM
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Originally posted by Cory Simpson
Uhhhmmm, drag racing is a "real" track.


And how do you know he wants if for drag racing?
Well....I was 1/2 joking..... hence the winky face And what the hell else would you need a linelock for? Its used for burnouts once you pull out of the waterbox at the dragstrip...
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Old Feb 14, 2004 | 11:29 AM
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Missed the wink....


And I would just use it for an excuse to buy new tires....
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Old Feb 14, 2004 | 11:34 AM
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Originally posted by Cory Simpson
Why wouldn't you just use ONE of those proportioning vavle's and put it on your rear brake line. Then shut it off, and you only have front brakes....

Seems ALOT easier, and soounds cheaper. Plus one of those proportioning valves I posted has a cable that you can put on it, and you run the cable to the dash or were ever, and put the vavle under the car, or right off of the master cylinder....
I don't think most proportioning valves can completely shut off the back brake.

I know the wilwood, ****-style I installed on my FC can't.
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Old Feb 14, 2004 | 11:38 AM
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Originally posted by Cory Simpson
Uhhhmmm, drag racing is a "real" track.


And how do you know he wants if for drag racing?
I want the line lock so I can warm my tires up before I race.
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Old Feb 14, 2004 | 11:40 AM
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Line lock is sometimes called "roll control"

The Hurst Roll Control will work on our cars too.

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Old Feb 14, 2004 | 02:02 PM
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Does anyone here have one on their FC3S?What did you go with 1 or 2 solenoids?Which brand?
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Old Feb 14, 2004 | 03:43 PM
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This site isn't RX-7 related, but if you read it all the way through you should be able to get some good ideas on an installation. http://www.izook.com/reviews/safetyb...afetybrake.htm

I just went to my servers SEARCH engine and put in line lockers. I had not a clue what a line locker was prior to that. There's soooooooooo much out there on the web..................
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Old Feb 14, 2004 | 05:08 PM
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Originally posted by HAILERS
This site isn't RX-7 related, but if you read it all the way through you should be able to get some good ideas on an installation. http://www.izook.com/reviews/safetyb...afetybrake.htm

I just went to my servers SEARCH engine and put in line lockers. I had not a clue what a line locker was prior to that. There's soooooooooo much out there on the web..................
I knew what a line lock was.Thanks anyway though.
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Old Feb 14, 2004 | 06:13 PM
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Listen Young GrassHoppa's for I will teach you the way of the Linear Locking Mechanisms!!!:



http://store.summitracing.com/defaul...Lock&x=20&y=11

I've have had this installed 2 sets of tires ago
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Old Feb 14, 2004 | 07:16 PM
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Originally posted by BlackRx7
Listen Young GrassHoppa's for I will teach you the way of the Linear Locking Mechanisms!!!:



http://store.summitracing.com/defaul...Lock&x=20&y=11

I've have had this installed 2 sets of tires ago
Which one the Hurst Performance,Mile Marker,Sam Biondo Racing or the Summit Racing one?How much did it cost you for the kit and installation?
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Old Feb 14, 2004 | 07:37 PM
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I got whichever was the cheapest I think it was the Sam Biondo Racing one, when you hook it up you'll need 2 T fittings with 2 3/8th threaded holes and 1 1/8th NPT, as well as some extra 3/8th brake line (short sections) then its pretty easy put one tee on the 2 front brake lines from the master cylinder to the 'in" side on the line lock actuator then the other T on the out side, one brake line goes through the proportioning valve, the other goes to the driver side front brake.

you can find the T's and all other fittings at NAPA if they have all their stuff in stock, it took me a while going through all the fittings in almost every auto-store in town.
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Old Feb 14, 2004 | 08:30 PM
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Originally posted by BlackRx7
I got whichever was the cheapest I think it was the Sam Biondo Racing one, when you hook it up you'll need 2 T fittings with 2 3/8th threaded holes and 1 1/8th NPT, as well as some extra 3/8th brake line (short sections) then its pretty easy put one tee on the 2 front brake lines from the master cylinder to the 'in" side on the line lock actuator then the other T on the out side, one brake line goes through the proportioning valve, the other goes to the driver side front brake.

you can find the T's and all other fittings at NAPA if they have all their stuff in stock, it took me a while going through all the fittings in almost every auto-store in town.
Thanks alot i appreciate it!
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