limp mode?
limp mode?
I have a 1988 Na Rx7 and i was wondering if this model has limp mode cus a problem im having seems like my car is in limp mode,if so what triggers it in this cus theres lots of info around and im reading that s4 omp is mechanical and won't put the car into limp mode.
Explain exactly what is happening to your car. S5's have a true limp mode. S4's do not, but they have default modes in case something is wrong w/the sensors or coils which could cause the car to behave in an abnormal manner.
When in neutral the car will rev up to redline but in gear driving in the bottom end (pre 4k rpm) i can floor it but after 4k i cant give the car more than a little throttle or it like hitting a wall.
I also have New Ngk Plugs+wires,Walbro oem fuel pump,new fuel filter,new maf sensor and coolant temperature sensor if you needed more info
Code reader won't work on your car (too old and thus code readers work for the FD and not the FC). Secondary injectors work at 3800 rpm and engine under load. Reving does not create load thus why you can rev and pass through the barrier you are not able to while driving. You need to check the output wire of the pressure sensor. That wire (Brown/Red) should read 3.5 to 4 volts w/key to on. The AFM you replaced could be faulty for it helps create load along w/the TPS and pressure sensor.
You could also have a ground issue which is prevalent on your car and that issue will prevent the secondary injectors from kicking in when they are supposed to. Your pressure sensor has 4 wires. you already know about the Brown/Red wire. the other 3 wires should read as follows. Black/White 12 volts w/key to on. Brown/White 5 volts w/key to on. The 4th wire is the ground and thus should have 0 volts w/key to on. If this ground wire is tapped into and the new wire run to the engine housing then that will help overcome a grounding issue.
Also, if the TPS were unplugged and the pressure sensor's vacuum hose removed that will cause load on the engine thus when reving in neutral you can create load on the car while it is sitting still.
How to check S4 error codes:
http://fc3spro.com/TECH/HOWTO/ERRORC...KI/zerror.html
And the oem pump you speak of is designed for the NA and not turbo? Turbo pump is overkill for an NA.
You could also have a ground issue which is prevalent on your car and that issue will prevent the secondary injectors from kicking in when they are supposed to. Your pressure sensor has 4 wires. you already know about the Brown/Red wire. the other 3 wires should read as follows. Black/White 12 volts w/key to on. Brown/White 5 volts w/key to on. The 4th wire is the ground and thus should have 0 volts w/key to on. If this ground wire is tapped into and the new wire run to the engine housing then that will help overcome a grounding issue.
Also, if the TPS were unplugged and the pressure sensor's vacuum hose removed that will cause load on the engine thus when reving in neutral you can create load on the car while it is sitting still.
How to check S4 error codes:
http://fc3spro.com/TECH/HOWTO/ERRORC...KI/zerror.html
And the oem pump you speak of is designed for the NA and not turbo? Turbo pump is overkill for an NA.
Last edited by satch; Sep 4, 2016 at 02:26 PM.
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Code reader won't work on your car (too old and thus code readers work for the FD and not the FC). Secondary injectors work at 3800 rpm and engine under load. Reving does not create load thus why you can rev and pass through the barrier you are not able to while driving. You need to check the output wire of the pressure sensor. That wire (Brown/Red) should read 3.5 to 4 volts w/key to on. The AFM you replaced could be faulty for it helps create load along w/the TPS and pressure sensor.
You could also have a ground issue which is prevalent on your car and that issue will prevent the secondary injectors from kicking in when they are supposed to. Your pressure sensor has 4 wires. you already know about the Brown/Red wire. the other 3 wires should read as follows. Black/White 12 volts w/key to on. Brown/White 5 volts w/key to on. The 4th wire is the ground and thus should have 0 volts w/key to on. If this ground wire is tapped into and the new wire run to the engine housing then that will help overcome a grounding issue.
Also, if the TPS were unplugged and the pressure sensor's vacuum hose removed that will cause load on the engine thus when reving in neutral you can create load on the car while it is sitting still.
How to check S4 error codes:
FC3S Pro v2.0:  How-To - Zenki FC3S Error Codes
And the oem pump you speak of is designed for the NA and not turbo? Turbo pump is overkill for an NA.
You could also have a ground issue which is prevalent on your car and that issue will prevent the secondary injectors from kicking in when they are supposed to. Your pressure sensor has 4 wires. you already know about the Brown/Red wire. the other 3 wires should read as follows. Black/White 12 volts w/key to on. Brown/White 5 volts w/key to on. The 4th wire is the ground and thus should have 0 volts w/key to on. If this ground wire is tapped into and the new wire run to the engine housing then that will help overcome a grounding issue.
Also, if the TPS were unplugged and the pressure sensor's vacuum hose removed that will cause load on the engine thus when reving in neutral you can create load on the car while it is sitting still.
How to check S4 error codes:
FC3S Pro v2.0:  How-To - Zenki FC3S Error Codes
And the oem pump you speak of is designed for the NA and not turbo? Turbo pump is overkill for an NA.
The car had this problem before and after the afm swap and the new one is guarenteed by cardone,yes the fuel pump is the Na oem pump and not the turbo one. I can check the other stuff tommorow, can you remind me where my presssure sensor is? im thinking its the little box near the air filter box
Reman AFM's are mostly garbage. Never heard of a member on this site using one and having good results. You would be better off getting one from the classifieds section on this site. And why did you replace the AFM originally? Lastly, you were given the wire colors for the pressure sensor so that will tell you if you have the right sensor or not.
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Restrictor Pill in the Altitude Pressure Sensor Vacuum Line? Someone replaced the line & forgot this little doo-dad inside? Seems like an easy thing to forget & the ECU thinks your underwater or otherwise freaks out from excess pressure pulses to the sensor.
of course I say this all the time & don't have a clue... You could pull the line & stick a piece of wire or something in the hose to see if the restrictor is in there or not...
of course I say this all the time & don't have a clue... You could pull the line & stick a piece of wire or something in the hose to see if the restrictor is in there or not...
Code reader won't work on your car (too old and thus code readers work for the FD and not the FC). Secondary injectors work at 3800 rpm and engine under load. Reving does not create load thus why you can rev and pass through the barrier you are not able to while driving. You need to check the output wire of the pressure sensor. That wire (Brown/Red) should read 3.5 to 4 volts w/key to on. The AFM you replaced could be faulty for it helps create load along w/the TPS and pressure sensor.
You could also have a ground issue which is prevalent on your car and that issue will prevent the secondary injectors from kicking in when they are supposed to. Your pressure sensor has 4 wires. you already know about the Brown/Red wire. the other 3 wires should read as follows. Black/White 12 volts w/key to on. Brown/White 5 volts w/key to on. The 4th wire is the ground and thus should have 0 volts w/key to on. If this ground wire is tapped into and the new wire run to the engine housing then that will help overcome a grounding issue.
Also, if the TPS were unplugged and the pressure sensor's vacuum hose removed that will cause load on the engine thus when reving in neutral you can create load on the car while it is sitting still.
How to check S4 error codes:
FC3S Pro v2.0:  How-To - Zenki FC3S Error Codes
And the oem pump you speak of is designed for the NA and not turbo? Turbo pump is overkill for an NA.
You could also have a ground issue which is prevalent on your car and that issue will prevent the secondary injectors from kicking in when they are supposed to. Your pressure sensor has 4 wires. you already know about the Brown/Red wire. the other 3 wires should read as follows. Black/White 12 volts w/key to on. Brown/White 5 volts w/key to on. The 4th wire is the ground and thus should have 0 volts w/key to on. If this ground wire is tapped into and the new wire run to the engine housing then that will help overcome a grounding issue.
Also, if the TPS were unplugged and the pressure sensor's vacuum hose removed that will cause load on the engine thus when reving in neutral you can create load on the car while it is sitting still.
How to check S4 error codes:
FC3S Pro v2.0:  How-To - Zenki FC3S Error Codes
And the oem pump you speak of is designed for the NA and not turbo? Turbo pump is overkill for an NA.
Last edited by rx7fan5645; Sep 5, 2016 at 01:09 PM.
Did a few things and now with the pressure tube and tps unhooked its not getting caught at 4k anymore its going right through so it may be fixed but i cant go for a ride cus its memorial day and cops are out(car isnt road legal). ill take it out tommorow and let you guys know.The car is smoking really bad right now also.
W/the TPS unplugged and the vacuum hose to the pressure sensor not connected you are taking two sensors out of the equation thus one of them might be your problem. You'll find out sooner or later.
ive tested my tps before and its good so you think i should replace my pressure senser?
You don't replace until you know first off. Secondly, you were given the expected voltage readings for the sensor. thirdly, there are more than one way to test the TPS and that would be the sweep test.
Last edited by satch; Sep 6, 2016 at 12:10 AM.
voltages on senser were good and i spliced in a ground like you told me and didnt make a difference. should i try to get a video to show you what its doing?
How did you test the TPS? The TPS voltage on the Green/Red wire should gradually increase from close to 1 volt to about 4.5 volts as the piston on the TPS becomes fully extended (test is done w/an analog meter). What was the reading on the Brown/Red wire of the pressure sensor w/key to on?
Last edited by satch; Sep 6, 2016 at 03:00 PM.
How did you test the TPS? The TPS voltage on the Green/Red wire should gradually increase from close to 1 volt to about 4.5 volts as the piston on the TPS becomes fully extended (test is done w/an analog meter). What was the reading on the Brown/Red wire of the pressure sensor w/key to on?
Pressure senser readings were 3.46,11.88 and 4.95v


