Lightweight Flywheel issues....
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Lightweight Flywheel issues....
Ok my car has a lightweight flywheel... I have a couple small complaints about it..
1) The car winds up quickly as far as rpm go, but the initial acceleration is not as what one would expect from a modified car.
2) The Rpm drops so fast inbetween shifts that I start out in the bottom end or (Zero torque zone) of the rpm range. I find myself double clutching just to keep up with normal traffic...
3) Car is slow to Accelerate up hill, but hauls *** on the interstate/level surfaces... I actually got to 140mph in 5th with pleanty of power/tach left.. I will post a picture tonight...
I can pop the clutch while driving 15-20mph in second gear and I will roast the tires, so it has high end torque like a MUG but I can't even get it to burn out in the rain by just stomping the pedal.....
Any words of wisdom? Kinda wish i didn't have this damn flywheel....
1) The car winds up quickly as far as rpm go, but the initial acceleration is not as what one would expect from a modified car.
2) The Rpm drops so fast inbetween shifts that I start out in the bottom end or (Zero torque zone) of the rpm range. I find myself double clutching just to keep up with normal traffic...
3) Car is slow to Accelerate up hill, but hauls *** on the interstate/level surfaces... I actually got to 140mph in 5th with pleanty of power/tach left.. I will post a picture tonight...
I can pop the clutch while driving 15-20mph in second gear and I will roast the tires, so it has high end torque like a MUG but I can't even get it to burn out in the rain by just stomping the pedal.....
Any words of wisdom? Kinda wish i didn't have this damn flywheel....
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thats normal
a heavier flywheel stores rotational momentum
easier go from a dead stop
the engine rpms will drop slower because the flywheel has alot of inertia
etc
reverse is true for a lightweight flywheel
going from a deadstop needs higher revs
revs drop quicker between shifts
engine braking will be less effective
what you are saying sounds normal for a lightweight flywheel. you just have to adapt your driving to it. basically higher rpm launch, shift at higher rpms, etc. you lose mpg too! but it sure is fun to drive.
a heavier flywheel stores rotational momentum
easier go from a dead stop
the engine rpms will drop slower because the flywheel has alot of inertia
etc
reverse is true for a lightweight flywheel
going from a deadstop needs higher revs
revs drop quicker between shifts
engine braking will be less effective
what you are saying sounds normal for a lightweight flywheel. you just have to adapt your driving to it. basically higher rpm launch, shift at higher rpms, etc. you lose mpg too! but it sure is fun to drive.
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hey rrtec what kind of flywheel are you using an aluminum or lightened steel i'm interested in knowing because i'm thinking of changing mine but would like some reviews first
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Lightened steel, It came on a rebuilt motor I had, It has holes drilled all over the place, looks like quality machinemenship. THe shop that resurfaced it said it appeared to have been built professionally. Dunno who made it though.
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Originally Posted by carsaregood
i thought it was more effective ?
No, the heavier the flywheel, the more resistance it provides.
I'm interested in finding out how my ACT Streetlite flywheel will feel like when I install it.
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Originally Posted by f1blueRx7
No, the heavier the flywheel, the more resistance it provides.
I'm interested in finding out how my ACT Streetlite flywheel will feel like when I install it.
I'm interested in finding out how my ACT Streetlite flywheel will feel like when I install it.
as stated earlier the heavier the flywheel the more enertia it stores. the lighter, the less.
so...
the heavier flywheel helps push the rotors around past their compression point; where as the lighter flywheel has less enertia to help force the rotors around past their conpression point.
but as for the initial question, what you are experiencing is typical of a lighter weight flywheel. - rougher idle (unless you turn it up) - nice fast spool up of the engine. - higher rpm needed to use the power of the engine.
makes me wonder about a mid weight(about 14lbs) flywheel with a slipper clutch setup...
hope that enlightens some and maybe confuses others,
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The idle is a bit lopey... All in all I need to autocross it to see how well it performs. As far as Street use goes I would give the Lightweight flywheel a big thumbs down.
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Originally Posted by f1blueRx7
No, the heavier the flywheel, the more resistance it provides.
I'm interested in finding out how my ACT Streetlite flywheel will feel like when I install it.
I'm interested in finding out how my ACT Streetlite flywheel will feel like when I install it.
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Lightened steel, It came on a rebuilt motor I had, It has holes drilled all over the place, looks like quality machinemenship. THe shop that resurfaced it said it appeared to have been built professionally. Dunno who made it though.
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Uh, check my sig for my mods. But yea. I noticed a drop in lower RPM, but a slight increase in higher RPM. I have already killed the hell outta my low end, so i figured i would do a little more.
Starting on a hill from a stop is really hard. I have killed it a couple times, and also sometimes burn the hell outta the clutch. Smells really bad.
Anywho. I like the light flywheel.
I think the best mod was the free flowing exhaust. Dual exhaust sounds sweet. .
Starting on a hill from a stop is really hard. I have killed it a couple times, and also sometimes burn the hell outta the clutch. Smells really bad.
Anywho. I like the light flywheel.
I think the best mod was the free flowing exhaust. Dual exhaust sounds sweet. .
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Originally Posted by takahashiRyosukeFC3S
as stated earlier the heavier the flywheel the more enertia it stores. the lighter, the less.
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Originally Posted by fc3sfreek
i have an 11lb act flywheel with a stage 3 ACT clutch/PP and i really dont find it so bad in traffic but i do lack in low end, i just figured it was cuz my car is a turboII
They have 'Heavy duty' and 'Xtreme' Pressure plates, and then Sprung/Unsprung fullface, 4puck, and 6puck clutch discs.
I've got sitting next to me an Xact streetlite flywheel, Xtreme Pressure Plate, and a Sprung Street/stip full face disc. I guess it also helps to mention that I have an S5 turbo, so I'm hoping my car doesn't have problems on hills .
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HAr Har.. The car is bieng prepped for a S5 turbo... SO I am just building it up slowly...
I am just a poster child for throwing parts at a car without thinking of the consequenses I guess.. What a jackass I am for keeping my car Wankled.. Why would I do thAT when I could put inferior parts in it and ruin it's resale value...
I am just a poster child for throwing parts at a car without thinking of the consequenses I guess.. What a jackass I am for keeping my car Wankled.. Why would I do thAT when I could put inferior parts in it and ruin it's resale value...
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yeah a 17lbs flywheel is the way to go if you plan to mod your t2. The stock t2 flywheel on my s4 is a beast but it helps get the turbo vert and its extra couple of hundred pounds out of the whole faster. Its also a good mate for my 6 puck act HD. You will also find alot of guys with the 9lbs flywheels want to roll race because they could get spanked out of the hole by your Mom's minivan.
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Originally Posted by takahashiRyosukeFC3S
as stated earlier the heavier the flywheel the more enertia it stores. the lighter, the less.
so...
the heavier flywheel helps push the rotors around past their compression point; where as the lighter flywheel has less enertia to help force the rotors around past their conpression point.
so...
the heavier flywheel helps push the rotors around past their compression point; where as the lighter flywheel has less enertia to help force the rotors around past their conpression point.
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Originally Posted by takahashiRyosukeFC3S
but as for the initial question, what you are experiencing is typical of a lighter weight flywheel. - rougher idle (unless you turn it up) - nice fast spool up of the engine. - higher rpm needed to use the power of the engine.
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