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Old Oct 29, 2001 | 10:41 PM
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Kyb Agx?

Who has these?

You like them?

Would you recomend them for use with Suspension Tech. "7/8 drop?

They are 4 way adj in front and 8 way adj in rear. I ran across a good deal on them and I just wanted some imput on them. Thanks, Chris
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Old Oct 29, 2001 | 10:59 PM
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ive got em on my vert. i like em. but im running eibachs.

they are good quality and are adjustable easily. i would reccomend them!

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Old Oct 29, 2001 | 11:56 PM
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they are good, don't think they last too long on the track with stiffer springs, but great for the street. they go for around $370-$400 brand new for 4, just to compare to your "great deal".
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Old Oct 30, 2001 | 08:20 AM
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yea, i found them for $355 set of 4, that is the best i've ever seen on them
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Old Oct 30, 2001 | 08:46 AM
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I have them on my car. They are stiffer than stock, but works okay. I can feel my car handles better with it, but i made a mistake of using Eibach springs
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Old Oct 30, 2001 | 09:26 AM
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I installed them with ST springs and I love them. They are very nice with the linear springs.
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Old Oct 30, 2001 | 03:14 PM
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Originally posted by t_mak@mail.plymouth.edu
I have them on my car. They are stiffer than stock, but works okay. I can feel my car handles better with it, but i made a mistake of using Eibach springs
What's wrong with Eibach springs? I am VERY happy with mine.
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Old Oct 30, 2001 | 05:00 PM
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What's wrong with Eibach springs? I am VERY happy with mine.
He was probably referring to Pro-Kit's which are progressive rate, unlike what we run.
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Old Oct 30, 2001 | 06:23 PM
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awww...makes sense. I'd be unhappy with any set of progressive rate springs.
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Old Oct 30, 2001 | 07:53 PM
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Yo,


I'm gonna wade into this discussion because I desperatedly need some new shocks. My GTUs is like Luke Skywalker's land speeder: floaty. *grin* Anyways, got some general Q's I'm gonna throw out:


1. Where do you get 'em for $355 for 4?

2. How many adjustments per shock? I've read 5, 8, etc.

3. How do they compare to Tokico Illuminas?

4. Would the Racing Beat springs be a good compliment to the AGX's?

I really like the stock GTUs/Turbo II suspension, not too rough for everyday cruising, but when the road gets twisty, it works fine. I want to get this as well:

http://www.racingbeat.com/resultset....onPackage86-92

So any words of wisdom for a Racing Beat springs/KYB AGX combo?

Thanks in advance!

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KS
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Old Oct 30, 2001 | 09:59 PM
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Yo,

1. Where do you get 'em for $355 for 4? - Don't know, I paid $370 from coximports.com.

2. How many adjustments per shock? I've read 5, 8, etc. - 4 Front, 8 Rear

3. How do they compare to Tokico Illuminas? - Rears are adjustable from outside the car and you don't have to take your speaker towers apart to adjust.

4. Would the Racing Beat springs be a good compliment to the AGX's? Running Eibach Pro-Line.

I really like the stock GTUs/Turbo II suspension, not too rough for everyday cruising, but when the road gets twisty, it works fine. - I set mine on the softest setting for street use. Very comfortable. Increase the setting for autocross.
Hope that helps.
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Old Oct 30, 2001 | 10:50 PM
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Yo,



Thanks!


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Old Oct 31, 2001 | 12:01 AM
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3. How do they compare to Tokico Illuminas? - Rears are adjustable from outside the car and you don't have to take your speaker towers apart to adjust.
You forgot to add that little tidbit from Scott 89t2 about the AGX shocks not being able to take racing loads. The Mazda Competition suspension packages come with either Koni or Tokico shocks with linear-rate Eibach springs, so you can take that for what it's worth. However, if you are just driving on the street, then you may as well save some money and get the AGX shocks.
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Old Oct 31, 2001 | 12:33 AM
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May i know if i can use this shocks with INTRAX 1 3/4 drop??..i want them because they are so affordable compare to other aftermarket shocks.
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Old Oct 31, 2001 | 12:52 AM
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Man I scraped my Greddy's today in 'sport' mode

I need to get some new shocks, has anyone replaced the 'aas' shocks with oem replacements?
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Old Oct 31, 2001 | 07:34 AM
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Intrax springs are piece of crap. ST springs are only like 20 bucks more

Yes I hate the Eibachs because they are progressive. Car feels mellow with that. It takes all the predictability out of the car.

As for the AAS question, at medium setting. The KYB rides only a little stiffer than the AAS in sport mode. KYB is worth it, eibach progressive is not
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Old Oct 31, 2001 | 08:21 AM
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i want tokico N/As. ive heard they are stiffer than the highest settin on the illuminas and are not that bad price wise on RB. hey, when are we gonna race chris? n/a vs. turbo, ive got the suspension and youve got the turbo, should be good!
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Old Oct 31, 2001 | 11:32 AM
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Originally posted by hurleyboi514
i want tokico N/As. ive heard they are stiffer than the highest settin on the illuminas and are not that bad price wise on RB. hey, when are we gonna race chris? n/a vs. turbo, ive got the suspension and youve got the turbo, should be good!
Are you the guy on TV who asks people if you can walk their dog?
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Old Oct 31, 2001 | 07:09 PM
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I've got KYB AGX's w ST springs.
They drop the car 1 inch. You may need to get a camber adjuster thingy if that bothers you (noticeable negative camber on the rears, but its not that bad) Ride is MUCH stiffer than stock AAS. Fronts are 4 way adjustable and easily accessed, rears are 8 way adjustable and a little annoying to adjust (gotta get on your back and slide under the gas tank and twist the ****)
AAS is not compatable with this setup. AAS will twist the internal rods about 45 degrees when changing settings on the OEM shocks. AGX's use 360 degrees while sweeping through the settings.

I love my setup regardless though since she is squatting a little looking like she wants to pounce on a honduh.

I reccommend this setup since it is affordable (got mine through tirerack.com) I would reccommend though that you upgrade your sway bars and bushings (might as well do the entire suspension system while you're at it) Have fun tuning them!!
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Old Oct 31, 2001 | 10:49 PM
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well this all sound very good! I do believe I will buy them and have many hours or driving goodness.

Oh, and for those that want to know were to get them www.k2rd.com
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Old Oct 31, 2001 | 10:51 PM
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Originally posted by Evil Aviator

You forgot to add that little tidbit from Scott 89t2 about the AGX shocks not being able to take racing loads. The Mazda Competition suspension packages come with either Koni or Tokico shocks with linear-rate Eibach springs, so you can take that for what it's worth. However, if you are just driving on the street, then you may as well save some money and get the AGX shocks.
You can't go wrong with Konis but I disagree on the Tokico Illuminas. Its been my experiance and that of the friends I track with that the Illuminas can not handle the abuse put upon them under track conditions. Even with stock rated springs they have exhibited an extremely high failure rate. The KYBs so far have been bullet proof as long as the spring rates are kept under about 350. Over that they wont last very long. This makes them great for cars used both on the street and the track (real kind, not the straight kind) with spring rates ~2x stock. Best bang for the buck out there...
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Old Nov 1, 2001 | 12:25 AM
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Originally posted by hurleyboi514
i want tokico N/As. ive heard they are stiffer than the highest settin on the illuminas
The Tokico N/A's are called "Standard" and their rebound/compression rate is equivalent to Illumina's set on #3 out of 5. 5 being the firmest setting. So no, they are not stiffer than Illuminas. (I've had both)

Ditto on the Intrax springs comment - had 'em on an N/A - they do suck. The Racing Beat spring is a better product (I've had both).

As for Illuminas wearing out with too stiff of a spring rate - my front spring rate is 375lb. and the rear is 250lb. My shocks have been doing just fine for 3 years so far and I keep the front set on 5. rears set to 4.
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Old Nov 1, 2001 | 06:22 AM
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hey guys, is there any real difference between the ST springs and the RacingBeat. I have heard they both claim 20% stiffer than stock, and i think they are both linear, so is there any real difference between the two?
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Old Nov 1, 2001 | 09:57 AM
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cost as far as i know.

on a side note:
I have the ST springs with my Monore shocks and it made the ride around town better, stiffer and eazier to move around in trafic, but the shocks couldn't hadle the rebound of the springs under hard driving. so i would bounce, which made car very hard to drive. So I took them off and have them sitting in a box. I want to get some better shocks with adj rebound before i sell my springs because they have potental. So far eveyone sounds pleased with there setups, we need to some up with some type of test we can do to find out what setup is truely the best.
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