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My GTU started out slighty smoking when I loaded it on the trailor to take it home. Then it died. Wouldn't start again. So I did the ATF trick, swapped out the spark plugs, and walla! Running RX-7... but it smoked like a BITCH! Ran it a bit, smoke settled down, still smoked at high RPM. Changed the oil ( Castrol GTX 10-W30 ) and proceeded to drive it hearing "It'll smoke for as much as 3 weeks after the ATF trick". Well... it's been 3 days, it still smoked. Take it out of the driveway and *BUZZZ* oil level warning light. I stop the car, pop the hood, pull the dipstick, no oil on the dipstick. I say ****, put it back in the garage, and come to the forum...

Oil gague stayed at ½, engine sounds good, smoking from exhaust manifold.... EVIL EVIL GTU!!

What is the problem?

Did the ATF eat the oil seals? Did the oil leak somewhere ( no oil leaks on the ground )? Did aliens steal all the oil? WHAT'S WRONG!!!

cymfc3s

dude, you guys are doing the "atf trick" for NO good reason. Car runs like ****, dump tranny fluid in it. Christ, thats not how you fix a car. If you fill the motor with tranny fluid you going to make some weak oil control rings even worse. Fix one problem at a time and go from there.

neofreak

but its a miraculous cure all for whatever problem you have. =)

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This car did NOT run when I bought it, the carbon buildup was so bad. After doing the ATF trick it ran pretty well. I don't just run out and do things for the fun of it. In fact if you look I posted to the forum the problem with this car and they recommended the ATF trick. It did fix the car so I see no reason for you to say "this is no way to fix a car." There are a number of very good mechanics on this forum that suggested that.
I doubt that so many could be wrong!

If you cannot suggest a solution then please keep your snide comments to yourself.

If anyone out there that has a comment that is helpful and might tell me what direction to go next please post it!

Thanks

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Yet another stupid, and usless comment from the peanut gallery....

cymfc3s

You said it yourself, it started then died. If you got it to start, its NOT carbon locked, it was flooded. To unflood a rotary, you dont need to pour tranny fluid in it. And if I dont have all the info, i cant really suggest a course of action. And im not going to do search the forums for a history of your car. =P Regardless of the oil consumption and smoking, does it run ok?

cymfc3s

relax man, this is the 2nd gen section, not the 3rd gen section.

Poindexter10thae

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It sounds like rebuild time, from the symptoms you describe it sounds like one of the oil control O-rings on the rotor housings is gone. Check your coolant, does it smell like exhaust? Do you run out of coolant?

10TH_ANNIV_T2

What color was the smoke, really white I believe is coolant, more of a bluish/darker color generally is oil. While I'm slightly sympathetic to some of the comments, giving a few more specifics would help. Not trying to start anything, just trying to help, mmmKay? Here's Mr.Smiley face: Nobody can be mad an Mr. Smiley face.

I would agree, if the motor hasn't been sitting for a long time, and turns over, it's probably not carbon lock.

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So true so true.

The last 2 comments were made by my mother on my behalf

The smoke in question is a SOLID white/grey. It LOOKS like ATF smoke ( as per pictures of people doing the ATF trick ). It had been smoking after 2 days of hard driving, and when I went to start it today, it blew some more smoke, like it had since the ATF, and the oil light came on.

I changed the oil and filter this past weekend, along with the spark plugs. The coolant is STILL the coolant that was in it when it sat, but I haven't smelled it.

The Events of the past week and a half:

When we moved the car to load it on the trailor upon buying it (where it had been sitting for approx. 6 months), it smoked. When it died, it threw a good 2 foot flame at my legs. When we got it home, I did the unflooding procedure ( EGI fuse ) and that didn't work, so I followed up with the ATF unflood. That worked, but it only ran for approx. 2 minutes and then died. So I think "compression"! And did the ATF trick, because I was under the impression It can't hurt anything but the spark plugs, and the O2 sensor.

After the ATF trick, and a little re-timing ( Timing was advanced by quite a bit ) the car ran, however it hopped at low RPM. After another post and some research, I dumped a bottle of Injector Cleaner in it, and it's been driving better day by day. Then today, when I pulled it out and warmed it up, *BUZZZ*

I hadn't checked the oil since the day after I changed the oil. Haven't checked the coolant other than to say "Yea, it's got coolant"


I'll go check that now... I'll be back in a few moments.

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Coolant is fine. Smells like anti-freeze. To the top. Green. Kindof sugary. Don't know what else to say about it...

10TH_ANNIV_T2

But the ATF smoke should go away relatively quickly, no? I mean, it shouldn't still be smoking after an hour of running.

I'd have to guess you're burning way too much oil, probably say a compression test may be a bit low, but maybe some other internal oil leak. New engine may not be so unreasonable of a guess.

Either way, hopefully you have a good set of tools....

Greg O.

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Huge set of tools. Fully functional shop. And if there's a tool I don't have. I have spare steel, a cutting torch, and a welder.

With all that, anything's possible

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now coming up with the at LEAST $400 for a rebuild... that's another story.

Felix Wankel

Quick oil control o ring test:

Take it up to redline in 2nd or 3rd gear, let off the gas (still in gear), then punch it back to the floor after it loses a couple thousand RPM. If the oring is shot, it will spit out a bunch of smoke when you punch the gas the second time...

niner

have you checked compression?