My car has been siting for about 2 years and now it's flooded.
I remove all the old gas and put in new gas with STP fuel injector cleaner.
I tried the AFT method and still have no luck.
I believe the weather has something to do with it, since it is hovering around 30 F.

Always I put AFT (Castrol) in both bottom spark plug holes and I can't get the car to turn over. It's been sitting there for 2 days and counting. My question is how had is this going to effect my engine and is it going to cause any long term damage?

What would you guys do in this situation?

 

is the starter engaging?

 

Yes, I can hear the rotors when I do the unflooding procedure

 

What do you mean when you say you can get the car to turn over? Is the engine rotating? Putting a lot of ATF in the engine and putting the spark plugs back in can cause the engine to hydrolock. If the engine does rotate but doesn't want to start because it's just so flooded I always just get another car, and pull start it by pulling the car foward and just putting it in 2nd or so. When it does fire up try to keep it running untill it's fully warmed up. Should do the trick, I have rarely succeeded by gettting a flooded rotary to fire by pulling the fuel fuse or using ATF but pull-starting it always works, so I usualy don't bother with jumper cables and deflooding tricks.

 

It's flooded, I tired of trying all these deflooding tricks and pulling out my hair. I'm going to use your trick. Where should I have the attachment points on my car? I'll get my friend to use his truck to pull me.

Do you think the ATF did any damage siting in my engine for 2-3 days?
Did the STP fuel injector make the make the flooding issue worst?

 

Here's the video


and a little more information.

I tried starting the car and it would not turn over.
Did the egi plug pull trick etc and still didn't turn over.
I looked around the intake location and out that my air filter was full of rat poop and looks like they tired to crew the filter. I took the air filter out and it started and died really quick.
After a few more cranks, nothing.
My friends were suggesting the gas might be to old, so i replace the gas with around 2-3 gallons of new gas with STD fuel injector cleaner.
I tired to crank it again and nothing.
Then I did the AFT trick after I clean the spark plugs and still no luck.
Took all the spark plugs out to any gas evaporate for 2 days , ran out and got new spark plugs and tried to start the car, nothing...

 

Ok..If the car is not turning over that means the engine is not moving and the battery is dead..so do not use that term if the engine is Cranking over but not starting.

Check your intake as you have found rat ****..there could be more.
IF the Air Flow meter at the Airbox is NOT plugged into the harness the car will start and DIE..

You need to expel all fluids From the Internals..meaning PULL the EGI and SPARK PLUGS..and crank the engine over for 30 seconds.
Use a Clean set of plugs or NEW would be fantastic.
put the EGI FUSE and PLUGS back in and making sure the AFM is plugged,try to start the engine.

(*STD fuel injector cleaner??..there ya go..the car has Crabs!)

 

So here's my plan

Drain the gas to get rid of the std and put new gas in.
Crank the engine with the spark plugs removed to get rid gas/std

Should I then put motor oil inside the spark plugs then plug my spark plugs back in?

 

I noticed from your vid the engine is not even stumbling, I would make sure it's getting air(make sure air box is not pluged etc. spark, test your coils are firing and well gas if you smell gas and it's flooded you've covered that base.

If all that checked.....get some starter fluid and spray in throttle body while cranking....it will sure start then

 

It has spark and I also expose the throttle body just incase something was blocking the air flow.

Still no luck

I tired starter fluid it didn't work... I'll try push starting but I'll have to wait until the weekend for some friends to come help.

any other suggestions?

 

Dude..Don't shovel any more oil in your engine..that is most likely why you can't start it!

 

did the starter fluid make the car run at all? even for a sec?
Do you have fuel pressure?
remove all your sparkplugs, are they wet? clean them up, crank with fuse out for good 30sec or more. after flushing out what ever, install your plugs reconnect your intake hose so the afm know how much air going in.

 

Keep in mind it did start at one time when I removed the rats nest in the air filter.
That's before I started I drained the old gas and added new gas with std fuel injector cleaner.

It still acts the same way.
How do I check for fuel pressure?
When I took out the spark plugs the first time, it was wet.
Second time I took it out, it seems dry but smells like gas.
I already took out all the plugs and cranked it for 30 secs to remove everything I can.
I reconnect the intake hose and still flooded...

Can someone explain to me what flooding actually is?
(The spark plugs are too wet from fuel and can't start? Then why do people suggest to put oil/aft in the spark plug hole, wouldn't that make it harder for it to spark?)

And what does AFT do to help correct the problem?

 

i think the ATF trick is used as a last resort to "free" the rotor and unseize it, break down the carbon and free up the seals. or the fuel washed off the oil on the walls and pouring little bit of ATF or oil is to "seal" up each face of the rotor
May i ask how you check for spark?
have you try giving a bit of throttle while starting?

 

I pulled one of the spark plug wire and attached it to a old spark plug, I can see a heavy spark

 

Put some really hot spark plugs in it.

 

I'm shocked a compression test hasn't been suggested yet

 

I also haven't had any fortune putting oil in the chambers to unflood my engine. It just worsened the problem.

If you don't try pull starting it;
1. Unplug your egi fuse
2. Take out all the spark plugs, and put a towel near the spark plug holes to catch the oily mist
3. Floor the throttle (more air in, more air out; that's all)
4. Crank it for 30 seconds (Or two or more 15 sec. cranks)
5. Reinstall everything

With the throttle closed, it should hopefully fire, and if it does, give it some throttle to help it rev and stay running. If it doesn't start after five seconds of cranking, repeat everything. If the smoke machine runs, like others said, keep it running until your temp is normal. I had to do this procedure 3 times after my engine flooded severely once.

After starting a badly flooded engine, it's good to consider an oil change, especially since yours sat for two years. Also, check your coolant level after you get it running to make sure a coolant seal didn't let loose during it's hibernation.

 

After two years I would tow start it.. Compression test wont tell you anything, its not starting, it has low compression. Ive brought many old motors back by putting it in gear with the key on and dragging it round the block a few times.

If its meant to be, she will start, and you wont need to replace the starter afterwords.

 

My suggestion to you is: pull it like people have said, and video tape it ( would love to see it ) or bring the car to a mechanic.

 

Spark(& timing), Air/Fuel, Compression is all you need. If you have those three it should run.

The AFM needs to be installed to close the fuel pump circuit when cranking. Is it getting spark? You can use a inductive timing light to see if the plugs are getting current.

Here's what I would do: Verify it's getting fuel, but not flooded. Verify it is getting spark. Like others have said, get your mom, or dad, or friend to tow it down the road, stuff it in first, and let out the clutch while they continue to tow (make sure key is in the run position), modulate the gas pedal and see if you get any sputtering or once it starts running, honk the horn to get the tow car to stop and push in the clutch and keep the revs up! If you pull start it and you get nothing verify compression and start over.

Good luck!

(hijack) J-rat you live in Hood river now? I remember watching your AZRR? videos way back when. hrnico lives in Hood river too. (/hijack)