2nd Generation Specific (1986-1992) 1986-1992 Discussion including performance modifications and technical support sections.
Sponsored by:

I have fuel spark and air why won't my fc turbo start!!!!

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 08-12-11, 04:34 PM
  #1  
I
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
boostkeepsmesane7's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: davenport,ia
Posts: 158
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I have fuel spark and air why won't my fc turbo start!!!!

I have a 87 na with a s4 turbo swap fresh rebuild and street port. I rewired my fuel pump I have a walbro 255lph fuel pump new fuel filter to. It has not started sense rebuildt. I did some checks yesterday I have spark and my primary and secondary's are good I'm pretty sure. I took some measurements from pins 3c and 3e at the ecu I have to jump my car so I was getting like 13 volts withthe key on and cranking I had 5 volts then it went up to 6-7 volts after a few seconds cranking. TPs is also adjusted to 1k ohm. I was cranking on it for a good 20 minutes deflooding it a couple times yesterday. so I decieded to try a different ecu plugged it in and it fired right up idled for a second and then died I also had my fuel pump disconnected then to deflood it. I than plug in my fuel pump tried firing it up and I tired a good 20 minutes on this ecu and nothin at all after that first time on the other ecu I'm so freaking confused but feel super close to gettin my car runnin!
Old 08-12-11, 05:14 PM
  #2  
Moderator

iTrader: (1)
 
satch's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: tulsa,ok.
Posts: 11,738
Received 12 Likes on 11 Posts
If the fuel check connector was jumpered and the key to on can you hear the fuel flowing through the rails? If not then check the 15 amp Engine fuse. Is the AFM hooked up solidly? Does the Brown/White wire at the TPS have 5 volts w/key to on?
Old 08-12-11, 05:55 PM
  #3  
I
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
boostkeepsmesane7's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: davenport,ia
Posts: 158
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Fuel is flowing through lines idk about the 5 volts tps . Afm is pretty sturdy but idk yet how can I check and see if the afm is good still
Old 08-12-11, 06:28 PM
  #4  
Moderator

iTrader: (1)
 
satch's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: tulsa,ok.
Posts: 11,738
Received 12 Likes on 11 Posts
With respect to the AFM I was wondering if the connection to it was solid, not sure if you understood this. There are ohm readings you can take from the AFM as specified in the FSM to tell if it's good or not. If the car starts and then dies immediately it could be because of a vacuum leak, but also the AFM may be at fault. If the problem persists w/the fuel check connector jumpered then the fuel switch internal to the AFM is likely not the problem. There are a couple of pins at the ECU that receive input signals from the AFM so these could be checked. Pin 2E would show 4 volts w/key to on and pin 2J would have 2 to 3 volts at 68 degrees air temp (this reading should be less important than the other pin reading). Additionally, you might need to add some oil to the rotor housing to help build compression if the engine was rebuilt. No more than a teaspoon should do in both housings. Also, you could disconnect the fuel pump and try some starter fluid to help clear the engine out if it were indeed flooded. A shot of starter fluid followed by starting it and then it should quickly die out and do this a few times to fully get rid of a possible flooded situation. Then reconnect the fuel pump back up and try to give it a go. If you add the oil do it after you try to deflood it as mentioned.
Old 08-12-11, 08:51 PM
  #5  
Rotary Enthusiast

 
florotory's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Omaha, Ne
Posts: 884
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by satch
With respect to the AFM I was wondering if the connection to it was solid, not sure if you understood this. There are ohm readings you can take from the AFM as specified in the FSM to tell if it's good or not. If the car starts and then dies immediately it could be because of a vacuum leak, but also the AFM may be at fault. If the problem persists w/the fuel check connector jumpered then the fuel switch internal to the AFM is likely not the problem. There are a couple of pins at the ECU that receive input signals from the AFM so these could be checked. Pin 2E would show 4 volts w/key to on and pin 2J would have 2 to 3 volts at 68 degrees air temp (this reading should be less important than the other pin reading). Additionally, you might need to add some oil to the rotor housing to help build compression if the engine was rebuilt. No more than a teaspoon should do in both housings. Also, you could disconnect the fuel pump and try some starter fluid to help clear the engine out if it were indeed flooded. A shot of starter fluid followed by starting it and then it should quickly die out and do this a few times to fully get rid of a possible flooded situation. Then reconnect the fuel pump back up and try to give it a go. If you add the oil do it after you try to deflood it as mentioned.
+1 he is the man.
Old 08-13-11, 06:57 AM
  #6  
I
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
boostkeepsmesane7's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: davenport,ia
Posts: 158
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Thanks man tommorow I'ma be in the garage all day got the day off so I'm defiantly gonna check that all out hopefully somethin works. I wanna go crusin !!!
Old 08-13-11, 07:22 AM
  #7  
I
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
boostkeepsmesane7's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: davenport,ia
Posts: 158
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
And also it could be a vaccum leak but I've looked all over for one but can't find any. All my emmisions are removed and I just used red rtv for the block off plates. Could that be causing a vaccum leak u think ?
Old 08-13-11, 09:40 AM
  #8  
Driving RX7's since 1979

iTrader: (43)
 
HOZZMANRX7's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: So Cal where the OC/LA/SB counties meet
Posts: 6,096
Likes: 0
Received 8 Likes on 8 Posts
Are you sure you put the fuel lines on correctly. You wouldn't be the first guy to connect the fuel and return lines backward.
Old 08-13-11, 09:56 AM
  #9  
I
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
boostkeepsmesane7's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: davenport,ia
Posts: 158
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Fuel goes to bottom and return comes from the upper fuel rail right ?
Old 08-14-11, 05:30 PM
  #10  
I
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
boostkeepsmesane7's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: davenport,ia
Posts: 158
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by satch
With respect to the AFM I was wondering if the connection to it was solid, not sure if you understood this. There are ohm readings you can take from the AFM as specified in the FSM to tell if it's good or not. If the car starts and then dies immediately it could be because of a vacuum leak, but also the AFM may be at fault. If the problem persists w/the fuel check connector jumpered then the fuel switch internal to the AFM is likely not the problem. There are a couple of pins at the ECU that receive input signals from the AFM so these could be checked. Pin 2E would show 4 volts w/key to on and pin 2J would have 2 to 3 volts at 68 degrees air temp (this reading should be less important than the other pin reading). Additionally, you might need to add some oil to the rotor housing to help build compression if the engine was rebuilt. No more than a teaspoon should do in both housings. Also, you could disconnect the fuel pump and try some starter fluid to help clear the engine out if it were indeed flooded. A shot of starter fluid followed by starting it and then it should quickly die out and do this a few times to fully get rid of a possible flooded situation. Then reconnect the fuel pump back up and try to give it a go. If you add the oil do it after you try to deflood it as mentioned.
so i checked the voltaged at 2e it has 4.035v and 2j has 2.041v and i tired firing it up a couple times and nothing itd just run and die and that was only on starting fluid. i also did all the checks on the afm and it was all in spec. so why wont this dumb car start it deffently has compression you can here it i dont get it
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
trickster
2nd Generation Specific (1986-1992)
25
07-01-23 04:40 PM
alphawolff
1st Generation Specific (1979-1985)
17
11-17-15 05:57 PM
immanuel__7
2nd Generation Specific (1986-1992)
89
09-05-15 10:23 AM
PhillyFC
General Rotary Tech Support
9
08-21-15 06:36 PM



Quick Reply: I have fuel spark and air why won't my fc turbo start!!!!



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:03 AM.