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I am thinking about buying an RX7, but it has no Power Steering. Is this a problem?

Old Jan 19, 2010 | 12:57 PM
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i put manual racks on both my FC's
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Old Jan 19, 2010 | 02:29 PM
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/\ Lucky. though it would be awesome if I could just get a manual rack I dont think i could easily find a rhd one.

So I'm getting mine de-powered soon because my turbo is so big and its right in the way of the lines
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Old Jan 19, 2010 | 02:45 PM
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quick question: where could one find a manual steering rack?
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Old Jan 19, 2010 | 02:49 PM
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quick question: where could one find a manual steering rack?
Junkyard, for sale section of forums, if you have infinity thousand dollars Mazda might still produce them new. Your best bet is to look at S4 SE/base and sport models.
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Old Jan 19, 2010 | 02:52 PM
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Dont worry too much about the powersteering my car needed the belt for the PS but after a while you get used to plus it fun to see my friends struggle to move my car with two hands

( they thought they could steal it and drive off but they were two weak to move the wheel ) while i drive it with one hand like nothing
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Old Jan 19, 2010 | 03:09 PM
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agree on s5 na power steering suckage. The s4 t2 power steering is infinitely easier at low speed and high speed.
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Old Jan 19, 2010 | 03:29 PM
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I hated the power steering on my convertible. It seemed like if I was at parking lot speeds and turned quickly from left to right, it couldn't keep up and lost power for a second. I know other people had the same issue. Very dangerous.... Then again the TII might be different... Anyways, I depowered the rack properly and never had that issue again : )
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Old Jan 19, 2010 | 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Roen
My pec's hurt after a full day HPDE session on beltless PS.

Was very fun though.
Yeah, beltless PS is crazy. I drove my old true manual rack after driving beltless PS for a couple years and mistook it for a PS rack.
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Old Jan 19, 2010 | 07:02 PM
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Manual rack is better to me but try to find one with power and see how you like it
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Old Jan 19, 2010 | 07:59 PM
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I love not having power steering:
-slightly less weight
-better steering feedback
-LESS **** TO BREAK!
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Old Jan 19, 2010 | 10:44 PM
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Originally Posted by farberio
Yeah, beltless PS is crazy. I drove my old true manual rack after driving beltless PS for a couple years and mistook it for a PS rack.
This is a huge misconception. Taking the PS belt off of a powered rack does not simulate what the car will be like without power steering. You are actually fighting the fluids inside the rack when you do this, which will make the wheel harder to turn. There are good rightups on how to properly de-power a rack. Just seach.

I have a properly depowered rack on my FC and my 91 Miata. I don't run anything too sticky for tires on my FC as it is just my daily driver. However on my 91 Miata, which wears R-Comps all the time, you definately have to put more muscle into your steering inputs.
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Old Jan 20, 2010 | 12:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Roen
yea.....it's just annoying to do. You need the pump and the lines and the ps computer, if i'm not mistaken.
...and have fun retrofitting those wheel speed sensors
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Old Jan 20, 2010 | 06:09 AM
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^ What wheel speed sensors?

I haven't seen any on my 1986 GXL and it's a vehicle speed sensing type.
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Old Jan 20, 2010 | 06:52 AM
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...and have fun retrofitting those wheel speed sensors
Those are for the ABS system, not the steering.
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Old Jan 20, 2010 | 07:19 AM
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Originally Posted by clokker
Those are for the ABS system, not the steering.
That is embarassing.
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Old Jan 20, 2010 | 08:05 AM
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Originally Posted by JDM Quinn
This is a huge misconception. Taking the PS belt off of a powered rack does not simulate what the car will be like without power steering. You are actually fighting the fluids inside the rack when you do this, which will make the wheel harder to turn. There are good rightups on how to properly de-power a rack. Just seach.
Re read my post. To rephrase it, belt less power steering is very hard. But after you are used to that, driving a true manual makes the manual rack feel like power steering because its so easy to use.

My car is full depowered now.
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