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Old 04-20-08, 12:12 PM
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OK, forum...


the track to run 1/8 mile is in a high place.... I mean....is in a cold place...

I go yesterday but I don`t want to test my time....my last time was 11.35 in 1/8mile


but yesterday was the second time what happen to me this ****


when I entrate I park my car and was a drink a beer....this time to drink I return to my car and when start......its great cloud of gray smoke A LOT.....


obviusly I don`t want to run anymore!!!!!!! I have a deathmatch with a Starlet GT turbo


well, my mechanic say me about a termostat to the oil......

the oil is going to the camber of combustion cold....????

somebody help me



thanks
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I think I know what you are sayin Senore Suave(just kidding man!)..the Oil Cooler,at the Bottom,undo that HOSE..the Oil Thermostat is there.
Old 04-22-08, 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by misterstyx69
I think I know what you are sayin Senore Suave(just kidding man!)..the Oil Cooler,at the Bottom,undo that HOSE..the Oil Thermostat is there.

yeah right.....................................



I mean in simply text.:


When my FC is cold, at start get out GRAY SMOKE...not much, during 1 minute...


HELP!!!!!!
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Meteoro try this site.
http://www.babelfish.altavista.com/tr
Just trying to help us communicate better.
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i think he's saying that when he starts the car cold, theres alot of grey smoke thats coming out of the exhaust?
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Originally Posted by Airceo13
i think he's saying that when he starts the car cold, theres alot of grey smoke thats coming out of the exhaust?
obviously. coolant seal might be blown or oil seal. are you losing oil?
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man i wish i could i understand just a little bit better what your saying...Im not knocking you by any means...but it's just a little unclear in your last few post what the car is doing...
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sounds like worn oil seals to me. no big deal, a little extra oil in there durring a cold start never hurt. I say run it.
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Originally Posted by hhn2002
obviously. coolant seal might be blown or oil seal. are you losing oil?

when I take the car in cold, as much in the mornings as in cold places pekeņa throws one white smoke cloud....y when I am in high places and cold it is enough! thanks




and where encounter those seals of coolant and oil?????




my FC has pipe semi frees, with 2 original escapes and this using oil 20W-50 Castrol....en the oil changes I have been religious almost each 3,000kms. has candles BUR, always with Coolant, sera that tendre that to open motor, suggestions

Is N/A...S4 engine...

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Meteoro..you said your Mechanic Mentioned a Oil Thermostat..it is IN the Oil cooler,and you have to take the Bottom hose off to get at it..Grey smoke?..Check your Fuel ratio.Your Injectors may have a bit of a leak.My old FC used to start up and smoke,a touch.Nothing serious,it would go away after a minute...(also If People are having a hard time understanding you,there is a Latin America Section...I hope I am not offending you suggesting that..Maybe you could Communicate your problem out in your own "lingo" and better help than from the Gringos here!..Good Luck,.)
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Originally Posted by misterstyx69
Meteoro..you said your Mechanic Mentioned a Oil Thermostat..it is IN the Oil cooler,and you have to take the Bottom hose off to get at it..Grey smoke?..Check your Fuel ratio.Your Injectors may have a bit of a leak.My old FC used to start up and smoke,a touch.Nothing serious,it would go away after a minute...(also If People are having a hard time understanding you,there is a Latin America Section...I hope I am not offending you suggesting that..Maybe you could Communicate your problem out in your own "lingo" and better help than from the Gringos here!..Good Luck,.)

the thermostat that I mention is the one that goes within the cigueņal... within the axis that goes by means of the rotors... supposedly mio already damage and therefore is let enter oil camara of combustion. Injectors? then I have in good state, well clean use Prestone additives. the one of the oil radiator does not have anything to do.....creo. thank you very much
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Originally Posted by meteoro
the thermostat that I mention is the one that goes within the cigueņal... within the axis that goes by means of the rotors... supposedly mio already damage and therefore is let enter oil camara of combustion. Injectors? then I have in good state, well clean use Prestone additives. the one of the oil radiator does not have anything to do.....creo. thank you very much
what your mechanic was talking about was the "thermo pellet"
he thinks that your thermo pellet broke and is not cooling your rotors so your oil control rings heat up and breakdown causing oil leak into chamber of combustion. to fix the problem you might need engine rebuild. seals of coolant and oil are deep inside engine. when your engine not running and cool down; oil, fuel, or coolant leak into chamber of combustion and when start up in morning it burn away.

laymen terms at its best!
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Originally Posted by hhn2002
what your mechanic was talking about was the "thermo pellet"
he thinks that your thermo pellet broke and is not cooling your rotors so your oil control rings heat up and breakdown causing oil leak into chamber of combustion. to fix the problem you might need engine rebuild. seals of coolant and oil are deep inside engine. when your engine not running and cool down; oil, fuel, or coolant leak into chamber of combustion and when start up in morning it burn away.

laymen terms at its best!


IS the only WAY???????


only REBUILD the engine...? what is the damage to future...... the consecuences?

anybody can explain me this detail.



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its probably not too bad. you have to check make sure you have good enough coolant and oil. you can still drive but if lose a lot of oil or coolant rebuild soon. i think ok to drive. do not race! drive normally.
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its no problem

race the heck out of it!!!

mine lived through a year or two of autocross just fine with these conditions. a little extra oil in the combustion chamber wont hurt anything. worst case scenario: it fouls a plug.

if it does turn out to be a coolant seal then the absolute WORST thing you can do is let it sit! drive the heck out of it. its not going to get any better, but letting it sit just rusts the irons.

keep an eye on your fluids and do the rebuild when you can, or when you find a good deal on another engine, there is no rush. driving it isnt going to hurt it.


PS
do a compression check, that would help us troubleshoot.
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I think we are talking about rotor oil seals because he said he was cranking for a minute before it started.
If that is the case, the car will slowly get more difficult to start until it just stops starting altogether. It will start running rougher and rougher, etc. The better care you take of it, the longer it will last.

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race the heck out of it!!!
Driving is actually what WILL hurt it. The more and harder you drive, the faster the seals will break down and ruin the motor. Keep an eye on the fluids and rebuild when you can? Maybe when you're 16 you don't NEED a car.. But in REAL LIFE, which you can look forward to soon enough, people need to get to work. Giving BS advice is not cool, man.
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Originally Posted by hillbilly81
race the heck out of it!!!

mine lived through a year or two of autocross just fine with these conditions. a little extra oil in the combustion chamber wont hurt anything. worst case scenario: it fouls a plug.

if it does turn out to be a coolant seal then the absolute WORST thing you can do is let it sit! drive the heck out of it. its not going to get any better, but letting it sit just rusts the irons.

keep an eye on your fluids and do the rebuild when you can, or when you find a good deal on another engine, there is no rush. driving it isnt going to hurt it.


PS
do a compression check, that would help us troubleshoot.



I feel a good and adecuate answer.......because my car is a Monster!!!!!

have a great torke!!!! is awesome, really a other world with my another cars....



And precisly I want to run AUTOX to middle of the year in the track here, only time attack with me.....



The fc donīt lose great quantity of oil and coolant........


THANK YOU VERY MUCH!!!
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Originally Posted by powrdby13B
I think we are talking about rotor oil seals because he said he was cranking for a minute before it started.
If that is the case, the car will slowly get more difficult to start until it just stops starting altogether. It will start running rougher and rougher, etc. The better care you take of it, the longer it will last.

Driving is actually what WILL hurt it. The more and harder you drive, the faster the seals will break down and ruin the motor. Keep an eye on the fluids and rebuild when you can? Maybe when you're 16 you don't NEED a car.. But in REAL LIFE, which you can look forward to soon enough, people need to get to work. Giving BS advice is not cool, man.

Iīm affraid to take compressionīs......


but the care is much better was the car receive......................

oil change each 3K kms.

coolant refill every week.........




about the sparks...........long time ago....a excess of oil wet my spark, the front sparks and my car wonīt start....remove and was a great quantity of gray smoke...

too many....

is the only GREAT BAD, was the car has done....
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