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Old Nov 12, 2006 | 02:45 PM
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HOW to un flood my NA. need help!

ok guys i am almost positive my piece is flooded, it started earlier thsi morning and now it wont kick over.

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turingin over and tryying to start but it wont.

if its flooded what the heck do i have to do to get it to start, i AM a noob and apologize for bieing dumb but this is my first project car.
an ASAP respones from capable peole would rock.

thanks alot
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Old Nov 12, 2006 | 02:52 PM
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https://www.rx7club.com/2nd-gen-archive-72/how-bits-fc-wisdom-including-easier-unflooding-27438/
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Old Nov 12, 2006 | 02:53 PM
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Old Nov 12, 2006 | 02:57 PM
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ok i also got feedback from a friend saying that it could be my O2 sensor what do you guys think about this?
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Old Nov 12, 2006 | 02:58 PM
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Old Nov 12, 2006 | 02:58 PM
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have you done a compression test at all?
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Old Nov 12, 2006 | 02:59 PM
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i would try the egi fuse first anyway
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Old Nov 12, 2006 | 03:09 PM
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It's not your O2 sensor.
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Old Nov 12, 2006 | 03:22 PM
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tried the fuse not workin, just pulled the plugs, doi need to put the oil in it like it says? or can i jsut try it from here cuz im letting it air out
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Old Nov 12, 2006 | 03:24 PM
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and no i havent done a comp test, ive only had thsi car liek aweek and a half. im tryyin to get it in good order to start modifying it and im a beginner. but i pick **** up fast, just dont want to do it wrong...
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Old Nov 12, 2006 | 03:32 PM
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how many miles do you have? Did the car run good before now?
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Old Nov 12, 2006 | 03:45 PM
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the car ran great this mornin and then i wouldnt start later. i dont know what to think i diddnt do any work on it, i was installing a kill switch for my audio and then it wouldnt start, i fail to see how that could have anyhing to do with it, i know its flooded because ther is a **** ton of gas on the plugs. any chance i can get a direct email from any of u gusy or an AIM or MSN or whatever?

my email is listed as well as my aim. thanks
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Old Nov 12, 2006 | 04:26 PM
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All you need to do is follow the links posted above.

Pull the EGI fuse and spark plugs.

Put a few ounces of oil into each rotor, then spin the engine over by hand a few times. Repeat this a few times.

Get a new set of plugs, reinstall them and then reinstall the EGI fuse.

Hold the throttle wide open while you crank the car for a few seconds.

Now try to start the car normally. You may have to play with the pedal a little and it will smoke alot...

Change the oil.
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Old Nov 12, 2006 | 04:38 PM
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how is the sam hell do you crank it by hand man?
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Old Nov 12, 2006 | 04:39 PM
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Well, you grab the pully with your hand and then turn it...

If your engine is stiff or you are weak then use a 19MM ratchet on the front nut.
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Old Nov 12, 2006 | 04:44 PM
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awesome man you rock, then jsut crank it over after i do that?
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Old Nov 12, 2006 | 04:47 PM
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********i was installing a kill switch for my audio and then it wouldnt start**********

Ewwwwww! How many times has that caused a *no start*. Lots of times is the answer.
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Old Nov 12, 2006 | 04:54 PM
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I've never had to pour oil in a S4 to get it to start, but I've read another way to get oil in the rotors other than pulling the plugs. I read it on this site I believe.

If you have a non turbo, and I think you do, then you have three vacuum hose on the front of the dynamic chamber. One above the other. Well, the LARGE hose leads directly to the oil injectors top air feed hole. IF you put that hose in a bottle of oil and then spun the engine over with the plugs installed, then oil should be sucked into the rotor chambers as you spin the engine over.

OR if you had a squirt can, you could squirt oil into that hose, then spin the engine over and oil should go into the chambers. IF the sparkplugs are installed, that is.

Oil builds compression. Compression, spark, fuel ......kabloowi.
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Old Nov 12, 2006 | 05:11 PM
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ok its started ill change the oil tomorrow. tahnks guys
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Old Nov 13, 2006 | 12:27 PM
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if you have a S4
wouldnt it inject oil anyway if you crank it by flooring it?
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Old Nov 13, 2006 | 12:39 PM
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There is one sure fire way to get any flooded rotary to start. That is to pull it in gear behind another car. It works every single time without fail. This assumes your engine has fuel and spark. If it does, it'll start. Pulling the fuse doesn't always work depending on the severity of the flooding. You don't need to pour oil into the engine or change your oil afterwards. Just pull start it. It's easy and works right away. It might start in 10 feet or 2 blocks but it will start. I've started an engine with a blown rotor this way.
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Old Nov 13, 2006 | 12:55 PM
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don't forget while you're cranking to unflood or trying to start the car.... don't crank for more than a few seconds continuously, give the starter breaks between attempts. It's easy to break a starter through continuous use, especially if you have a battery charger connected w/start mode that will prevent the battery from getting low and stopping you.
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Old Nov 13, 2006 | 03:24 PM
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Don't pull start the car, push start it. Much safer.
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