SayNoToPistons

What HID kits do you have and what do you think of them? I'm looking for actual reviews from FC owners. I am currently looking for a HID kit thats around 5-6k with no ricer colors.

Wanked_FC

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4300K is the factory color of all HID. It provides the most light output. 5000-6000k is too purple and produces lousy light.

SayNoToPistons

Ohh. I was told by someone on this forum selling a HID kit in the vendor section that 6k gives off white with a slight tint of blue. I don't know...

I also want to know if you guys are using housings (or lenses?) specifically made for HIDs or regular H4?

Wanked_FC

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As far as I know:

4300K bright white... slight hint of blue
6000k bright very blue
8000k blue/purple

Wanked_FC

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I can't comment on the FC, but I am running a 4300k kit in my DD. It has projectors and the light output and pattern is fantastic. So much better night vision.

SayNoToPistons

I have stock HID's on the Infiniti. Like they say, once you go HIDs you can't go back. I tried Silverstar bulbs. They're better than stock but no where near HID's clarity and the perfect cut off true HIDs produce. I can't stand driving without them at night even though they're not really needed in the city.

kamisama12

What is a decent kit for the FC? I have been looking, but a lot there are a lot of websites i can't access over here so if someone could tell me a website with a kit for the FC that would be great.

Wanked_FC

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I got my kit from Xenon depot, but it wasnt for an FC. They should have the kits an FC would need though.

VortecBowtie

I have the 4-5 k lights in my truck. They were actually out of a BMW so I had to rig them up in the light unit. Anything higher gives you the nasty blueish/purple look.





The truck has chnaged a lot since those pics but It might give you an idea.

younG_Gunner

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Icemark used to have full HID kits, housings sold separately. Don't know about now.

Sgt. Pepper

You're not going to get the perfect cutoff with our housings. The only way you can get the perfect HID cutoff is if you run a true projector headlight, not the cheap projector in the H4 housings you see on ebay either.

Killa DB

i am running the 8000k hid kit in my cressida and it is no where near purple its aqua white, really really nice, i will post some pics later... anything above 8000k i would say gets more purple, i'd go with at least 6000k... but thats just my personal opinion.

FuStEr

really depends on brand of hids, my DD i got some klight hids 8k its not bad, i would have went 6k but i'm fine with it.

Red_Rabbit86

wow i didnt think they where purple. i have only seen the mint blue and the sweet white. on my gf's mini cooper i ordered her's lights and i think they are a 6k and she has the the white/blueish tint

RotaMan99

HID hurts. I hate all new cars with HID. I wonder how many watts over the stock bulbs the HID kits take?

coldfire

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after the initial start-up an HID system actually runs at a much lower wattage than conventional headlights.

with kits you get what you pay for usually. you will have to first get an H4 housing, then you can use pretty much any H4 kit out there.
expect to pay about $300-$400 for a decent kit, with a quality kit using genuine Phillips, Bosch, Hella, etc. components being a few hundred more.

xenondepot.com and xenonfactory.com are fine as long as you get their more expensive kits.

keep in mind also an H4 housing with an HID kit will give neither optimal beam pattern nor be DOT legal, although it's not a huge issue...

do not get any kit labelled over 6k, they have to use more salts and impurities in the bulb to get it to look like that. you get reduced light output, less life, and annoy everyone with your stupid blue/purple lights...
cars that come stock with that sort of look is actually due to the reflector/projector lens and not the bulb. all OEM HID are in the 3k-5k temperature range...

SayNoToPistons

Thanks for the input. I Also read up on Icemark's kit, unfortunately he doesn't seem to carry it anymore. Well what kits out there well give me the best results in your opinion? If this doesn't work out, then i plan on getting projectors with HIDs from an Audi, Infiniti, BMW, or whatever i can find.

cpubugs

I think it woul dbe sweet to use an actual projector for your head lights then you could watch movies on a wall some where or change the color at will. lol

Risky Devil

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Why don't you just invest in a H4 conversion.
Raybrig makes conversion headlight non-sealed housings
with extremely bright white lights. Very good lighting output.

Its about $100.00 for the housing and bulbs. Way cheaper than
some no name HID kit.

TitaniumTT

Really there are only two true way to do HIDs. One can be insanely expensive and it involves alot of factory parts and retrofitting etc etc etc. The other option is (& this is the route that I'm going and will be doing it in stages) to pick up a set of moduales and mounting brackets & adjustable arms from need-a-t2... his GB is over here I know him personally and he does real quality work. The conversion to H9 bulbs is DOT compliant which no HID KITS are. HID kits are illegal because anything HID that is not a D1S, DS2 or D2R bulb in the correct projector is considered illegal. Actual retrofit OEM HIDs are legal basically through loopholes but how you would go about retro fitting into an FC is beyond me. Anything is possible though.

So what you could do would be to buy the dual headlight conversion & an H9 HID kit. You can run around with that HID setup (It will have good light pattern) until you can save up ~$500 again and buy the Hella 90mm HID moduales for ~$160 each, the correct HID bulbs for about $100 a piece, and the wiring etc. Even better would be to just have need-a-t2 order you the Hella HID package in one shot. I kinda wish I had done my homework first but oh well.

I was told by the guys at Susquehanna Motorsports - rallylights.com - that the Hella 90 HID moduales have a machined steel mounting base for the bulb. They do this because the brightness that a HID puts out is very difficult to control. With plastic housings, there is a chance for the bulb to get slightly mis-asligned and all of a sudden light is going every which way blinding people infront of you. Real OEM HIDs don't have that problem unless your car is really really low. That's why re-based HID bulbs are illegal. Apparently they cannot get the source of the light in a good enough position to properly aim it and it ends up throwing stray light all over the place. That's the reason for the machined steel base on the real HIDS, the source of the light needs to be centered within .005" otherwise it won't work properly.

Halogen bulbs are all different sizes and shapes and a DS2 is different from those. So what ends up happening is the light source ends up being in the wrong place. Check these out.
D2S

& an H9

You can see in the drawings that the HID capsule has the light source in a different location that the H9 bulb so retrofitting and such needs to be done.

coldfire

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well you would first want to get a decent HID kit. these still aren't as good as what you would find in a BMW or whatever but they use the same basic components. the ballast is the most important component and a kit that uses OEM ballasts like Phillips are good. look for something with more than a 1 year warranty. kits with 3 or 5 year warranties are generally better to get.
this is an example: http://www.xenonfactory.com/products/hid/polarion.htm

if you want to stick to the stock type housing, you still need to get a newer H4 housing to put an H4 HID kit in. i recommend Hella H4 housings:
http://www.rallylights.com/hella/200mm.asp

this route you are looking at about $500-$600 in parts, and just a few hours of work with no fabrication or special tools needed.

if you want a better beam pattern and maintain some sort of DOT legality, then you can fabricate a headlight setup with some DOT legal projector modules, such as Hella 90mm modules. this is what i did:
https://www.rx7club.com/2nd-generation-specific-1986-1992-17/my-new-headlights-pics-444342/

then you can get an H9 kit that will fit in those modules. if you go this route it will be about $600-$700 in parts but making the custom headlight setup takes time.

OR, and possibly the best solution if you want to spend this much, is to build a custom setup with the Hella 90mm HID modules, as mentioned in the post above. however this will cost $495.77 x 2 for just the low beams (includes everything you need though). or $538.46 x 2 for the bi-xenon (low and high) module. pricing here:
http://www.rallylights.com/hella/90mm_modules.asp

Icemark

I used to sell the HID kits, you can see a thread on bulb types and comparisons in the archive. (https://www.rx7club.com/2nd-gen-archive-72/thinking-about-hid-lighting-h4-bulbs-fc-specific-test-showing-difference-537202/)

5000K is the color used in most factory HID kits, but 6000K is usually fine as well, but unlike as mentioned by the previous two posters, there are DOT legal H4 housings that use a DS2 HID bulb with a steel light shield and H4 mounting depth, that will give you near OEM legality (note that most states say any upgrade to the light output of the car is not legal- regardless of DOT status).

Of course any HID system that does not change angle based on weight load of the vehicle would be illegal as per DOT status, so even someone's H9 kit would not be truly legal for US use without that leveling system.

SayNoToPistons

Do you plan on restocking anytime soon, icemark?

coldfire

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i have never been able to find a direct drop-in H4 HID housing like you mention for the 2nd gen (the 200mm sized rectangular housings).
you can get DOT H4 housings, but these are DOT approved for typical Halogen light sources, not HID output.
if you know where to get H4 HID DOT housings please post that if you don't mind.

TitaniumTT

That would be awesome for my Jeep that has those lights. I actually upgraded those to the Hella H4. It gives a REALLY nice pattern but it's just not bright enough. Next is going to be some wiring improvements to support some higher wattage bulbs. If that still doesn't help out with the 200 watts on the roof than I'll go HID in the young girl. But the 7 is sporting need-a-t2's kit becuase well, he's the man.