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Old May 14, 2005 | 11:10 PM
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ok.. I accidently bypassed something.. it looks like a relay or something... and now my car wont start. This is it..


It has 2 wires. one looks like a ground that gos to the fuse box.



and the other gos to the passenger side to the resistor thingy behind the headlight..



I check to see if I was getting spark on I got nothing.. I can smell alot of gas though. someone please help!!
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Old May 14, 2005 | 11:58 PM
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How did you bypass it? The little black thing I dont know the restor is the fule pump resistor. I dont know why thows wires are ran there maybe you can shed more light? If you are getting fule from injectors and not spark its your CAS. Check it with a multi meter.

How did you check for spark?
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Old May 15, 2005 | 12:23 AM
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I connected the orange wire to the ground spot on the fuse box. I took the spark plug out and stuck it in the wire.. didnt get anything. I dont know why these wires are there either... I bought the car like this. It has an MSD. maybe that has something to do with it?? Im not sure.
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Old May 15, 2005 | 12:36 AM
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the MSD may have something to do with it. You have to ground the wire or plug to get spark. Not good way can damage coil but without multi meter testing the coils thats how you do it. Ither use a test plug or with no plug sick the wire neer the - battory terminal will work. Insted of cranking car align the yellow mark on the pully with the guid pin and pull the cas out. The dimple should be alignd with the marking line. Now turn the key to ON and twist the gear on the CAS and the car should spark. If not you have a ignition problem or bad CAS or something to do with spark. Align the dimple again on CAS and insert back into engin without letting it turn.

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Old May 15, 2005 | 12:44 AM
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i would say get a full list of mods done to the car before you purchase it.
it could be a fuel relay mod which is incomplete.
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Old May 15, 2005 | 12:57 AM
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looks like part of a dodgy alarm system.
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Old May 15, 2005 | 01:36 PM
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I replaced the resistor and Im still getting nothing.... no spark at all. Maybe a fuse somewhere?? I checked all of the underhood fuses and the ones under the dash.. nothing blown.
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Old May 15, 2005 | 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by TurboRotary13b
I replaced the resistor and Im still getting nothing.... no spark at all. Maybe a fuse somewhere?? I checked all of the underhood fuses and the ones under the dash.. nothing blown.
Spark is controlled from the ECU and CAS thats its. Make sure you have good grounds on the coil packs perhaps run another ground from batt to frame and test as stated above. Still no spark and the fuses in engin bay are good test the CAS with a multimeter and look at one of the 2 being bad
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Old May 15, 2005 | 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by iceblue
Spark is controlled from the ECU and CAS thats its. Make sure you have good grounds on the coil packs perhaps run another ground from batt to frame and test as stated above. Still no spark and the fuses in engin bay are good test the CAS with a multimeter and look at one of the 2 being bad
ok.. Im trying to start it without the trailing coils bolted to the car.. does it need to be bolted to ground??
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Old May 15, 2005 | 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by TurboRotary13b
ok.. Im trying to start it without the trailing coils bolted to the car.. does it need to be bolted to ground??
no
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Old May 15, 2005 | 02:17 PM
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the car started before... I was going a FMIC and when I moved the coil is when this **** stared.
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Old May 15, 2005 | 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by TurboRotary13b
the car started before... I was going a FMIC and when I moved the coil is when this **** stared.
I'd be more looking at a loose or bad electrical plug or connection then.

Moving the coil os the only thing you did??? You have not unbolted/removed anything else???
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Old May 15, 2005 | 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Icemark
I'd be more looking at a loose or bad electrical plug or connection then.

Moving the coil os the only thing you did??? You have not unbolted/removed anything else???

yeah.. I removed that relay thing that went to the resistor. But thats all.
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Old May 15, 2005 | 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by TurboRotary13b
yeah.. I removed that relay thing that went to the resistor. But thats all.
Well the relay thing looks like the fuel pump resistor being bypassed. You are getting fuel, right???
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Old May 15, 2005 | 02:36 PM
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oh yeah.. I can smell it.
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Old May 15, 2005 | 02:51 PM
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sure you are not just flooded???
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Old May 15, 2005 | 03:06 PM
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I checked for spark and there is none! I let it sit over night and tried it again. I dont understand what this wire is for.. I dont see why there would be a wire going from the the resistor to a relay and from the relay to a ground.. and I dont know why that would affect my starting.
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