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Help out a newb please!
Okay, so here's what I got, and what I want. I've done much research and am not too sure on how to peice it all together.
I own a 1986 NA 5spd.
I am currently in the midst of doing a TII swap on it.
The thing I am missing most at this point in my life is the Motor. What exactly do I want? I want something that will be a reasonable daily driver. But kick the pants off the ricers out here in Alberta and in BC. I want something better then the normal TII motor.
What would be the best setup to acheive all this?
Standalone system?
What type of assembly should I be looking at getting?
I am still new to this whole rotary thing, but am learning much between AF NP and This forum. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Morgan
I own a 1986 NA 5spd.
I am currently in the midst of doing a TII swap on it.
The thing I am missing most at this point in my life is the Motor. What exactly do I want? I want something that will be a reasonable daily driver. But kick the pants off the ricers out here in Alberta and in BC. I want something better then the normal TII motor.
What would be the best setup to acheive all this?
Standalone system?
What type of assembly should I be looking at getting?
I am still new to this whole rotary thing, but am learning much between AF NP and This forum. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Morgan
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newb also
so ive been logged on to rx7club for about 4 months or so, and have been saving my questions til i couldnt find the answers ive wanted ANYWHERE.
anyway, im doing the good ol NA to TII swap also and heres where im at.
1 got jspec engine and tranny
2 got turbo cleaned and rebuilt
3 have new wiring harness and ecu/egi thing
4 have just torn off intake
the problems i have are mostly emissions related.
1 WAY too many vacuum hoses
2 not sure what to tear off as far as driveability is concerned
3 apparentley jspec and aspec air pumps are different and no one can get the one that will fit my enigine (or at least thats what im being told)
4 cant seem to find any good vacuum diagrams that say where all the hoses are actually supposed to go. (being as how the people who tear the engines out in jap. just cut everything to save time i hear.)
anyway, ill check back after a couple of days to what (if anything) has been posted .
thanks to all who have unknowingly helped so far!
anyway, im doing the good ol NA to TII swap also and heres where im at.
1 got jspec engine and tranny
2 got turbo cleaned and rebuilt
3 have new wiring harness and ecu/egi thing
4 have just torn off intake
the problems i have are mostly emissions related.
1 WAY too many vacuum hoses
2 not sure what to tear off as far as driveability is concerned
3 apparentley jspec and aspec air pumps are different and no one can get the one that will fit my enigine (or at least thats what im being told)
4 cant seem to find any good vacuum diagrams that say where all the hoses are actually supposed to go. (being as how the people who tear the engines out in jap. just cut everything to save time i hear.)
anyway, ill check back after a couple of days to what (if anything) has been posted .
thanks to all who have unknowingly helped so far!
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Originally Posted by Funkspectrum
hybrid turbo, 720cc pri, 1000cc sec injectors, FMIC, Haltech or Microtech, good clutch/flywheel/pp combo...
but first....do some research! learn some and then come up with ideas for yourself...
but first....do some research! learn some and then come up with ideas for yourself...
I am trying to, but I also don't want to screw anything up, as I don't know much about it, and have been trying to learn as much as I can over the past 4 months. But when it comes to doing a motor build I am lost. Hence why I come here.
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Well...searching through the archives and asking questions when necessary are great starts, bro...
blmcquig, the fuel lines are reversed on jspecs. if you don't have to worry about smog, you can look up the emissions removal and rats nest removal threads...As far as the air pump is concerned, just use any TII pump of the same series...
blmcquig, the fuel lines are reversed on jspecs. if you don't have to worry about smog, you can look up the emissions removal and rats nest removal threads...As far as the air pump is concerned, just use any TII pump of the same series...
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Originally Posted by Funkspectrum
Well...searching through the archives and asking questions when necessary are great starts, bro...
blmcquig, the fuel lines are reversed on jspecs. if you don't have to worry about smog, you can look up the emissions removal and rats nest removal threads...As far as the air pump is concerned, just use any TII pump of the same series...
blmcquig, the fuel lines are reversed on jspecs. if you don't have to worry about smog, you can look up the emissions removal and rats nest removal threads...As far as the air pump is concerned, just use any TII pump of the same series...
If school had given me this stuff to read, I am sure I would be a rocket scientist.
Anyways. I just want to know what people think of what I am trying to acheive, and what setup the would recomend.
Simple question. No?
Thanks.
Morgan
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Ah...karack makes a killer point...
A 13BRE can be had for roughly 1300 dollars.
The 13BRE came twin turbo and hand much larger ports than the 13BT. It is not the same engine that was available in the 93-96 RX7.
Pretty much, what you'd need to do is get some motor mount brackets, single turbo, standalone ems...fmic...maybe larger injectors and you're done.
A 13BRE can be had for roughly 1300 dollars.
The 13BRE came twin turbo and hand much larger ports than the 13BT. It is not the same engine that was available in the 93-96 RX7.
Pretty much, what you'd need to do is get some motor mount brackets, single turbo, standalone ems...fmic...maybe larger injectors and you're done.
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That would be something worth looking into I think. The FC's engine bay not large enough to hold a TT? or is the one turbo better?
Anyone know of a good place in Western Canada to get our pretty little machines tuned?
Anyone know of a good place in Western Canada to get our pretty little machines tuned?
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well...the only way that you would be able to use the Twin Turbo setup on a BRE, is to go ahead and use the stock ECU. Well..the stock ECU won't work unless you install the stock automatic transmission into the car. A standalone EMS won't control the twin turbo setup...
better to switch to a single turbo anyway...you make more power with one...
better to switch to a single turbo anyway...you make more power with one...
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were you talking about 300hp out of an fc with the 13bt?
i was getting hopeful for 280.
anyway, what does removing the airpump subtract/lose from the cars performance?
not really sure about a lot of the air system what can/cant be removed without killing idle.
alot of people have said that removing certain parts (egr, airpump, bap bgt bvr something like that) can help with better performance. the problem with that is that i have no idea where these are located at or how to remove them, what hoses go with, and how to do it all succsefully)
i was getting hopeful for 280.
anyway, what does removing the airpump subtract/lose from the cars performance?
not really sure about a lot of the air system what can/cant be removed without killing idle.
alot of people have said that removing certain parts (egr, airpump, bap bgt bvr something like that) can help with better performance. the problem with that is that i have no idea where these are located at or how to remove them, what hoses go with, and how to do it all succsefully)
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Originally Posted by Funkspectrum
well...the only way that you would be able to use the Twin Turbo setup on a BRE, is to go ahead and use the stock ECU. Well..the stock ECU won't work unless you install the stock automatic transmission into the car. A standalone EMS won't control the twin turbo setup...
better to switch to a single turbo anyway...you make more power with one...
better to switch to a single turbo anyway...you make more power with one...
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Okay, so far from the looks of everything I have looked into and the people I have talked too. I have come to the conclusion that I am going to spend the 10grand on a motor setup from a guy on Nopistons.com.
After I look a little more into it.
From the sounds of it and what we have talked about. 350RWHP, will be no issue for my car.
With the motor setup we are talking about.
When I get more of the specifics I shall let you all know.
Morgan
After I look a little more into it.
From the sounds of it and what we have talked about. 350RWHP, will be no issue for my car.
With the motor setup we are talking about.
When I get more of the specifics I shall let you all know.
Morgan
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