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Old 11-13-02, 10:10 AM
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Is this a good deal??87 tII

This guy has a 87 TII for sale . it has 148,00 miles. It had a very small electrical fire in engine area and I would guess it would cost 100.00 ( +/-) to fix...he has brand new tires (cost was 325.00) and the over all condition of the car is avg-good. He wants 600.00...what do ya think?..I know nothing about 2G Rx7's. I like 1G cars only...but.....I may jump on this car and play with it. Is it worth it?? Thanks for all you 2G'ers for your help/suggestions...I am a novice in the 2G area.......
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where in NC, if you dont get it i may go look at it
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yea man that dont sound really bad. if it all comes down to it. maybe you will have to replace the engine wiring harness. its not that bad. does the car run?
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If harness is toast, a used one should be sufficient. Engine wise, if it has not been replaced, with that mileage, I would assume it would need to be refreshed shortly, and costs jump considerably. Clutch, exhaust???
After getting it running, get a compression test to determine engine quality.
All in all if body/interior in good condition, sounds like a good deal.
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I will go look at this weekend, if I don't buy it ( and I proably will not, but...maybe) ...I will let you guys know about it...It has not been advertised yet ,,,the car is just sitting there...It ran fine a month ago ( so I am told) until the small fire. the guy just stored it since and I guess just wants to get rid of it. again, I am not a "2G" fan but, I like the idea of a turbo..anyway...thanks for the input and keep it coming...regards...7 fan over in the 1G forum....cjf
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I would get it even if you decide you it is too big of a project for you, you could probably part it out for more that 600 bucks.
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hawk 7,

Those are fighting words. You DON'T BUY A PEFECTLY GOOD TII TO PART IT OUT D@MN IT!!! Buy a TII and drop a cheap j-spec 13bt engine in.

TIIs are rare as it is, and should only be stripped if the frame is damaged beyond repair.
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Thenput your money where you mouth is Vaughn and buy my TII for 1800.00
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So your's is the 87 TII with small fire cjf is talking about above ??

Stick your add on www.thepartstrader.com and send out an e-mail to the "BIG" rx-7 e-mail list. I'm sure someone would love to build a good TII up. Especially if it just requires a little bit of wiring harness replacement/splicing and elbo grease.
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No mine is a complete car with a low compression engine in SC, str8 body
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Originally posted by vaughnc
hawk 7,

Those are fighting words. You DON'T BUY A PEFECTLY GOOD TII TO PART IT OUT D@MN IT!!! Buy a TII and drop a cheap j-spec 13bt engine in.

TIIs are rare as it is, and should only be stripped if the frame is damaged beyond repair.
Lighten up, it was just a suggestion. I bought my TII with a blown turbo for $600 bucks and I am not parting it out.

But if you want to box we can box!!
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Originally posted by banzaitoyota
No mine is a complete car with a low compression engine in SC, str8 body
Waht are the details on it? I have a buddy that might want to buy it. PM with if you have pictures and etc and I'll give you my address.
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Be very wary of cars that have gone through engines fires, especially pusation damper fires.&nbsp It may not look very bad, but costs can easily get way out of hand.&nbsp If the engine wiring harness is damaged, a used one is not always a guarantee fix - these things get old and brittle, especially for Zenki models.&nbsp A *NEW* harness is in the range of $1,000 for a Zenki turbo FC.

If things like fuel injectors and oil injectors are damaged, cost escalates very rapidly for brand new units from the Mazda dealer.&nbsp You can usually by these parts used for very good prices, but I doubt you can get it running for under $100.

See my PD fire page for cost of parts:&nbsp http://fc3s-pro.com/TECH/FAQ/pd.htm

I'd say have at least $1,000 in your budget if you're trying to resurrect an engine fire FC.



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and a good spool of wire is $25 You might have to splice into the existing harness and buy some used/junked connectors.

For small fires, most everything is available from the salvage yards.
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Originally posted by vaughnc
and a good spool of wire is $25 You might have to splice into the existing harness and buy some used/junked connectors.
Even that's not a good idea in my book...
I've messed with enough used harnesses to drive anyone crazy.&nbsp Soldering is the preferred method, but "old" copper wires will NOT take solder even with copious amounts of flux.&nbsp Crimping is the other option, but even that is not a truly secure connection.


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Originally posted by RETed

Even that's not a good idea in my book...
I've messed with enough used harnesses to drive anyone crazy.&nbsp Soldering is the preferred method, but "old" copper wires will NOT take solder even with copious amounts of flux.&nbsp Crimping is the other option, but even that is not a truly secure connection.


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It may not be a permanent fix, but could be a temporary fix until the money or time (or both) was had to properly replace the harness with a replacement or Haltech or something similar.
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So crimping would be the best then.

Definitly making my own harness when I restore my convertible.

Just haven't decided if I want to put additional insulation (more weight) or use "naked wires" like mazda does.
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well, what are you guys saying ??? Buy it for 600.00 ?? It has new tires that cost 300.00 (+/-). If it will cost me 1000.00 or more to get it running, I would not do it. I am told it would be just the harness that would be needed. Apparently it ran fine before the fire. Can I go wrong at $600.00?? If I put 400.00 into it, I could deal with that. If more, I would then have to re-sell it asap... Buy or not to buy.....please let me know your opinion...I wish I knew more about the car but I do not...thats it....I am going to look at it saturday...anything to look for...??? thanks again to you 2G'ers.....cjf (1G'er)
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just make sure none of the core engine (manifold, turbo, etc..) is melted.
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anyone else...help...I am going out tomorrow...$600.00?? or no ..thxs......cjf
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