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GAS SMELL COMING THRU VENTS/ rough idling 1988 vert

Old Jan 7, 2010 | 06:43 AM
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Unhappy GAS SMELL COMING THRU VENTS/ rough idling 1988 vert

...although the car seems to be running ok while driving. There is a strong smell of gas coming thru the vents. It also almost sounds like a lawnmower right in the area before the catalytic converter. I just had some gaskets replaced, but its still feels sluggish during acceleration. Could it be my headers?? I just spent about $1800 in servicing the vehicle and any advice would be helpful at this point.
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Old Jan 7, 2010 | 07:44 AM
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First things first, look for the popular spot these cars like to leak at.

Check under the manifolds, just behind the alternator towards the passenger side of the car.
There's a little white/yellow plastic guy on the end of your fuel rail.

It's called the Pulsation Dampener.

If you notice fuel leaking in this area. DO NOT DRIVE THE CAR.

Let me repeat that:
TAKE THE BUS OR WALK. YOUR CAR WILL BURN.

Do a search for "Pulsation Dampener" on here and you will find info.



BTW, I'm nearby you - I live in Dale City...
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Old Jan 7, 2010 | 07:46 AM
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Leaking pulsation dampener. jump the fuel pump per FSM and look for a fuel leak. could aslo be a leaking fuel line. either of these is ticking time bomb for a fire. don't drive it until you find the leak. most likely place is somewhere on top of rotor housings (fuel rail area).

Gas smell from front of car is 99.999% result of one of these:

1. fuel leak (as described above)
2. flooded (which is not the case here since it appears to be running)
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Old Jan 7, 2010 | 08:17 AM
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When i got the fc it was doing the same thing. The reason I couldnt adjust the idle or tps is because I had a fuel leak in one of the secondary injectors. Once i fix it, I was able to adjust the idling issue. I am going to eventually change all of the injectors. I just dont know which injectors to change them to.
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Old Jan 7, 2010 | 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Pele
First things first, look for the popular spot these cars like to leak at.

Check under the manifolds, just behind the alternator towards the passenger side of the car.
There's a little white/yellow plastic guy on the end of your fuel rail.

It's called the Pulsation Dampener.

If you notice fuel leaking in this area. DO NOT DRIVE THE CAR.

Let me repeat that:
TAKE THE BUS OR WALK. YOUR CAR WILL BURN.

Do a search for "Pulsation Dampener" on here and you will find info.



BTW, I'm nearby you - I live in Dale City...
Well I just went and took a look at the particular location you asked me to and I see like a white/yellow cap w/ little gas lines?? running underneath of it. I can see a slight crack on it and it definately looks like its been leaking. I see you live in Dale City. Could you have a look at my vehicle? I will gladly pay you accordingly. This is my only car for now and I really need it for work. Thanks.
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Old Jan 7, 2010 | 10:37 AM
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^ You've got a PM.

In the meantime, read up:
https://www.rx7club.com/2nd-generation-specific-1986-1992-17/where-find-replacement-pulsation-dampener-873328/
https://www.rx7club.com/2nd-gen-archive-72/skeptic-banjo-bolt-pd-elimination-mod-395021/
http://fc3spro.com/TECH/FAQ/pd.html

These cars require that you get your learn on sometimes.

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Old Jan 7, 2010 | 12:01 PM
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So this morning was not a fun morning I just about made to work and I started to smell a wierd rubber and gas smell figured it was the caddy in front of me that had all sorts of smoke coming out of it a block later I pull into work and that's when thing went to ****.

Smoke starts filling the car I stop the car smoke starts pouring out from under the hood I shut the car off throw open the hood and then I see fire lucky for me I had stopped next to a snow bank and so I started chucking snow on the manifold and fuel lines trying to get it out about 10 seconds later its out.

I got to look it over for a minute and it looks like a fuel line by the fuel rails cracked and poured fuel on the exhaust manifold causing it to start on fire.

So here's my problem I have most everything I need to convert n/a to turbo and all that appears to be wrong ATM wotj the car is fuel lines are melted and one of the electrical lines are going to need to be replaced. So do I convert it now and replace everything then or replace the n/a parts and go from there.... Sorry I am in a rush more details and pics later
This is your future unless you act now!
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Old Jan 7, 2010 | 08:49 PM
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Ahh dale city and woodbridge.... good times : )
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Old Jan 8, 2010 | 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Pele
These cars require that you get your learn on sometimes.
HAHA! i dont know which takes more of my time, the reading or the working...
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Old Feb 26, 2010 | 06:51 AM
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so i have a similar problem when i get on the gas sometimes i smell fuel but when its idling and such it doesnt drip or anything or appear to drip
89gxl jdm swapped
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Old Feb 26, 2010 | 09:44 AM
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yeah mine has the same problem, idles a little rough and gas smell. but i still drive it..
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Old Feb 26, 2010 | 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by sunhaze
yeah mine has the same problem, idles a little rough and gas smell. but i still drive it..
Foolish, to put lightly.
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Old Feb 26, 2010 | 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Brice_Brice
HAHA! i dont know which takes more of my time, the reading or the working...
But the more you read, the less you have to work
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Old Feb 26, 2010 | 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by jjwalker
Foolish, to put lightly.
Right... In this instance, I think seatbelts would be the UNsafe option.

Originally Posted by sunhaze
yeah mine has the same problem, idles a little rough and gas smell. but i still drive it..
Did you not read the warning about pulsation dampeners guy?! Why would you still drive the car, knowing it might burn.
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Old Feb 26, 2010 | 05:22 PM
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well, i haven't found any gas leaks and its been like that for a while. its not that i don't care its just, il take my chances, untill i can get it to someone who can fix it.
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Old Feb 27, 2010 | 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by sunhaze
well, i haven't found any gas leaks and its been like that for a while. its not that i don't care its just, il take my chances, untill i can get it to someone who can fix it.
goodluck with that.
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Old Feb 28, 2010 | 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by SpeedOfLife
Originally Posted by Brice_Brice
HAHA! i dont know which takes more of my time, the reading or the working...
But the more you read, the less you have to work
+1

Also you only have to do the reading once. Once you've committed a few thigns to memory, you can wreck or sell your current car... The next car, you already know what to look out for.

Originally Posted by NYsNumba1Man
Originally Posted by sunhaze
well, i haven't found any gas leaks and its been like that for a while. its not that i don't care its just, il take my chances, untill i can get it to someone who can fix it.
goodluck with that.
+1

As stated before, these cars require you to get your learn on sometimes... That's specifically because very few people know how to work on the rotary engine.
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Old Feb 28, 2010 | 07:24 PM
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well seeing as how i don't have much experience with them. and there's no replacement pulsation dampener being sold anywhere, other than a banjo bolt, that people give mixed reviews. i will just drive it down to rotary performance in texas and have them look at it. the engine could just be running rich. i have no idea.
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Old Feb 28, 2010 | 08:16 PM
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You can purchase the damper at Mazdatrix, RX7 store, Atkins Rotary or any Mazda dealer. Where in Oklahoma are you? It's easier to replace than you think.

http://atkinsrotary.com/store/catalo...p-1-c-664.html
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Old Feb 28, 2010 | 11:03 PM
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thanks man, i have never seen this page before. i googled for a while looking for one. im right in the middle of oklahoma city pretty much. if the oem service manuals can explain how to get to it i would attempt to replace it. but other than that personally i would feel better if someone did a write up on how to replace one of these things properly.
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Old Feb 28, 2010 | 11:17 PM
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I could provide you with the info or you could get in contact with very knowledgeable RX7 gurus in OKC who will probably be able to replace it for you for less than a repair shop. There is a member named "rotary inspired" who is out of OKC you could pm and I'll pm another member for you if need be.
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Old Feb 28, 2010 | 11:28 PM
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sweet yeah if you could that would be awesome! someone on this forum from okc rebuilt my engine apparently, i have been trying to get in touch with him. perhaps its the same guy.
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Old Feb 28, 2010 | 11:36 PM
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Originally Posted by sunhaze
sweet yeah if you could that would be awesome! someone on this forum from okc rebuilt my engine apparently, i have been trying to get in touch with him. perhaps its the same guy.
Do you happen to know the first name of this member or where he is located?
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Old Mar 1, 2010 | 06:55 AM
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Do you happen to know the first name of this member or where he is located?
Why dont you come to Rotary Performance here in Dallas, or if your lucky, somehow find Don Marvel?

Anyone seen Don Marvel? What happened to that guy?
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Old Mar 3, 2010 | 09:13 PM
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I'm the guy that rebuilt the engine in your car. The pulsation damper was replaced with a new OEM Mazda unit at the time of rebuild. Most likely if there's a fuel leak it would either be at an injector, a fuel hose or an injector o-ring. There isn't one square inch on an FC that I can't fix, so get your car to me asap before a fire starts. Seriously. It happens often and without warning. PM sent.
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