RickRx

I was messing around last night and figured out a way to keep my bumper reinforcement. Only problem is air flow. Any suggestions and if this was done before can someone point me in that direction. Thanks


A friend says i should drill about 4-5 2'' holes in the bar to let air through and try some ducting. I live in the city people will park on your intercooler.

Furb

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dude, why you want to keep the damn thing?

just ditch it and put your FMIC the right way, or just keep the stock IC.
if you dont like boht, fab a VMIC

RickRx

I need to keep it because i feel more comfortable with it. I was thinking of a v-mount but i have 2 months to have all 4 of my rx's ready to move, not enough time. I can't keep the tmic reaching for 400hp. So....... Maybe a intercooler sprayer?

My landlord (grams) says no more working on projects either they run or they go. So 1 down 3 to go 82 base (3 week wait for respeed rack and pinion, bnr stage 2 supposed to be here by now) 87 gxl coverting back to n/a to sell, 90 TII needs haltech wired and everything else, 84 gsl-se restored just chilling...

Thats why I need to make a quick fmic set-up and later I can get all fancy..Thanks for any help just want you guys to see my situation.

For those that say just put it in front must not live in the CITY. People will make a caddy fit in a honda spot. And anyone that parks their bucket/hoopty knows you back up til you feel the thud.

RickRx

I came outside one day and My neighbor had the back of her thunderbird on top of my honda's front bumper of course it broke out the bolts and now it hangs a bit.. But thats my bucket I said no problem just knock next time and I'll come move it..

If that was one of my R's they would be like get the big black guy off the little old lady.

Tofuman FC3S

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If you wanna keep it, you gotta dril it... It will get weaker, so modify it for airflow AND strenght. Or get a smaller IC.

Riz.

Jager

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Measure.

The dude that I bought my FMIC from (I cant get into teamfc3s to show you) bolted infront of the radiator, cleared the bumper support, only two cuts to the radiator support needed to be made.

He did a Griffin core (measured) and welded his own endtanks and piping. Griffin will also weld-end tanks for you if you'd like.

You'll have to do alot of work, but you will end up keeping the stock bumper support, not have to cut the factory bumper, and maintain a factory look.

I'de go for that.

RickRx

I seen that set up, it's nice. I just don't have the time. I figure 2 holes spaced correctly with some type of rectangle cone after and let the haltech control a sprayer. Hope it works

Evil Aviator

Wow, somebody who has common sense AND takes time to think things out and test-fit parts!

OK, first of all, don't remove the bumper. You should only remove the bumper if you are building a race car that has alternate crash protection, or if you are an idiot.

Secondly, the rule of thumb is that the inlet only needs to have 1/4 the area of the heat exchanger core. A car that sits in traffic for a very long time may need a little more inlet area, and a race car that only sees high speeds could use less, but 1/4 is a good fudge factor.

Therefore, if I am looking at the pictures correctly, you can mount the FMIC as-is, and add appropriate ducting so that air can reach the intercooler core behind the bumper. It is important to seal off everything as well as possible, although some small leaks are OK. You may also want to consider ducting for the radiator, oil cooler, and air conditioning condenser.

RickRx

Thanks I did not know you only needed to cover a 1/4 of the area. I'm for sure going to keep it this way and do the best ducting to everything that needs it.

This should also keep cost down as I'll rivet and sealant the ducting and go spray if I need it later. I might get a 180 extreme black magic to cool down the koyo a little better than the regular bm.

Thanks again I thought it was atleast 1/2 the area.

HAILERS

Removing the bumper turned my cars front end into a piece of JELLO. I removed the FMIC and went back to stock.

88rxn/a

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i think with some proper ducting youll be fine...i still need to do that to mine...

KNONFS

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AMEN!

quasar

2 months to fix 4 rx7s...... holy crap, good luck!

hurleysurf24

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whats the problem .. i didnt have to cut **** ?

RickRx

Thanks I'll need it...... I'm having real fun with the haltech install. And I've never seen a rb main pulley do the wobble? On my second all niter of the week wish me luck.


I removed the bar from a vert I had converted to turbo. Chucked the whole idea like Hailers said when I could lean on the bumper and feel nothing but time and money going down the drain not to mention my life.

And for anybody that has one thats been in a accident in the front before. I take a line from a good friend " The second time you crush a can its easier " Scared the hell out of me after I put what he was saying together. As I get older I get wiser. If you've ever took off all the front panels you know esp. in the front you can look at some of the metal wrong and it bends.

hurleysurf24

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that metal saved my life and my engines .. removing it is a very, very bad idea

lax-rotor

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Mine bent, could I cut it and weld in a triangular support instead?

RickRx

Removing that fiberglass reinforcement is a very bad idea. Keep the Styrofoam in front as well.


I would always bend it back and help it with a hammer.

The Wankler

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I did not have to remove a thing.

Jager

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I always thought you had the remove the support for the newer Greddy FMIC.

Got a picture?

RickRx

pics wankler? And the rad fits perfect thanks, hope that stays the same when the rack and pinion comes in.

I bought the steering equipment from you and realized how simple the first gens steering is even new. Had to upgrade. Thanks again and how did the show go?

RickRx

After some cutting, welding, cutting of myself, and cussing I got her done. Going to save up for a nice intercooler sprayer and run some ducting to get cold air through the air filter.

Got a nice one year extension on my rehab facility but jumping the gun has left me damn near broke. So far one man ganging it I've.

Pulled the motor back out of my se 4th time rebuilt by different builders (cars cursed) don't even want to get into it.

Turned my 87 n/a from a turbo back into a n/a with s5 motor and s4 middle iron built by me, so was the turbo motor used in the conversion. All the tII drivetrain was left on it and sold to a good friend dirt cheap.

In the midst I've taken ownership of a 90TII car in question with 84,000 miles on chassis(reason for selling 87) badly kept by previous owner. So far rebuilt the motor, cleaned up the engine bay, wired up haltech e8 almost, masterpower 810029 turbo, intercooler done, etc.

Lastly my favorite 82 base turning into a drift car. She gets respeed steering kit, big brake kit, coil over kit, camber plates, and sway bar. grannyspeed 8.8 with 31 spline and 2nd gen brake mounts. The wankler was nice enough to sell me a huge aluminum radiator with all the accessories. s5 tII motor from conversion with necessary s4 parts to run rtek 2.1 with 680/720 feeding a bnr stage 2 and 2 1/2 exhaust with borla xr-1.

I was told by the owner I had to get my cars out in 2 months.But after seeing how hard I was going with a hurt back and actually taking a look at what I was doing My father. Who has a viper, magnum, jag, etc. came down and asked why do you have a bunch of the same car, I spoke pretty much what I just wrote and he replied you got a year and I want to drive the one with the big turbo see whats the big deal......If only he said that a month and a half ago I would still have savings...

I took on coffee and I don't think my body likes it I feel like **** and the steering kit comes tomorrow. No prep today

hurleysurf24

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I know I ***** these pictures out .. but they are just to serve the purpose of informing everyone and making sure people realize what's what.

Say hello to the catfish:


As you can see here the bumper reinforcement saved not only my FMIC, but the entire front end of my car:

KEEP IT, k thanx