pinkfloyd

I could buy a kit for $1000 or I could buy a fmic from a friend for $400 (really nice IC) and do all my own piping and stuff. I found a site where I could get all my mandrel bent piping for about 100-200$ or so, but would still have to cut and connect the piping to make it fit. One thing that would be really hard (picture below) is bending the pipe around this. Do you know if I can just get a new one of these (pic below) that is angled the other way and not towards the fire wall. If for some reason you cant see pic it the air intake right before it hits the throttle body. Thanks I have a 88na body with 88t2 jspec motor

1SxyRXy

just buy the greddy one or something

pinkfloyd

thats the kit i am looking at. just wondering if anyone has done this before.

pinkfloyd

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Rpeck

do something like this guy did... that's my plan. I am doing all my own piping with a spearco core.

1SxyRXy

you also dont have to get a greddy adaptor for the intercooler to connect to, you can just use a NA coup.

pinkfloyd

mybe because i am new to rotarys but what do you mean by you can just use a NA coup

pinkfloyd

you mean get that part from an na...

1SxyRXy

the part that attaches on the throttle body. you can just use one off an NA

pinkfloyd

rpeck how much do you think all that will cost you

pinkfloyd

also...if i get my friend fmic without the pipeing is there a place where i could get just the pipeing from a gredy kit.

Rpeck

The core was just under $400, the welder $450, the piping less than $150. Add that all up, about $1000... but when I am done with it I will have a brand new 135 Amp Mig welder. All it will cost me is a little more labor. Buy a greddy kit, less work $1000 .. no welder in the end. I have alot of other things I would like to do some wleding on also .. so this is the route I decided on, plus the spearco core I got has higher flow, and capacity then the greddy.

One more thing, if your into show.. go greddy .. hard pressed to find a better looking kit. I am sure mine will not look near as good, but I am all about go!


-Robert

pinkfloyd

i am all about go to...my car looks like ****. i also want ot get a mig welder where did you get yous so cheep. you have to let me how this all goes....this sounds just like what i need to do...and as far as looks go you can always powder coat to cover weilds and ****. just a thought. pleez show me pics. and where did you get your ic. if it is better then i want it.

Rpeck

I say I am all about go, but my car will look very nice from the outside, infact I just painted it.. I just don't care what it looks like under the hood, I try to drive around with the hood down

Getting my welder from lowes this model;

welder

Got my intercooler from;

www.intercoolers.net

I will take plenty of pictures and update as I go along .. I have a 4 day weekend off Nov. 8-11 I think I am going to finish the whole thing off that weekend.

pinkfloyd

thats the mig i was looking at.....didnt know lows caried it. sweet. My friend really wants to get a tig welder. but i think it would be to difficult to lern on

Maxthe7man

Save for the TIg, don't bother with the mig... I haven't touched either of my migs since I got a tig.. Migs suck for stainless, and for aluminium, any time saved in the welding procedure is eaten up twofold, changing the machine over to weld different materials..
Rpeck: a 135 amp mig won't touch aluminium at all, you need at least a 225 amp mig to do any kind of aluminium welding, unless you like preheating everything to 500 deg which gets old real fast, plus you will need to buy a spool gun for the mig...Max

pinkfloyd

whitch one did you get. i dont want to spend over a grand. but if it means getting a good one then i will spend what ever i need to.

Rpeck

I was looking at Tig welders, and this was something I was doign for profit I would get one ... but i can't see spending $900-$2500 for something I will use at the most every couple of months. I mean a 160 amp Tig is $900 and thats only 25 amps more than the $450 Mig I was looking at. I have heard differing opinions on how much juice I will need to do what I want to do. I think I will get on the phone with Lincoln electric today .. see what they have to say.


Thanks for your input.

-Robert

pinkfloyd

tell me what they say. I want to get the right thing. me and like 4 of my freinds are all chiping in. so it wont be that bad if we each chip in 300$. We will be welding aluminum,steal, and all kinds of stuff.

Rpeck

I talked to lincoln, they said that welder is just fine for anything up to 1/8 IN. in thickness. They said it will have a %20 duty cycle 2 minutes of welding per 10 minutes of use. They also said need 2 different tanks of gas, 1 for SS one for alum. 2 different mixes. Also need athe alum feed kit, an extra $51.

1SxyRXy

go to www.1300cc.com he has a custom FMIC setup. but i dont know if you want yours in the front bumper or not

Maxthe7man

Rpeck, I have been down the road you are about to go down, I have nothing to gain by giving you this info, I own and use all the types of welding equipment currently on the market...
First of all, take everything the welder salepeople say with a grain of salt, what they say and what a welder will really weld is two different things...They don't mention that the matieral they test with , was done with a beveled edge, and preheated...
Second, before you buy the machine, try it out, any good welding shop will let you try the equipment.. And thats when you find out if the people know what they are talking about, take 2 pieces of 1/4 aluminium with you, ask them to set up the machine, and weld the 2 chunks... If you get into front mounts, you will run into 1/4 aluminium... When I bought my tig, I more or less test drove it, and the guy who worked at the store, set it up and welded with it in the store, so I knew I could beleive what he was saying, I went to other stores, where the salespeople couldn't even power the machines up...
Thirdly, tig and mig amperage settings are not compareable, I can weld 1/4 thick plate perfectly with a tig at 60 amps, where as with the mig it would take nearlt 140-150 amps of power, you also have verylittle control of ther filler metal speed, and thats what makes it difficult to weld aluminium with.. Tig is hand fed, and far more precise..Plus with foot pedal or finger tip heat control, its far easier to weld to metals of different thickness's..
If I knew now what i did 10 years ago, I would never had boughten 2 straight a/c stick welders, 2 migs, and then a tig.. I would have gone straight for the ac/dc synchrowave powersource, and started from there.it would have been far cheaper in the long run...
If you buy the lincoln mig, you are just going to frustrate yourself, I have a top of the line Hobart mig, and its useless on aluminium, and I am not a begginner at it...Max

Rpeck

Thanks for the input Max. Much appreciated, I am thinking about going to a rental shop, and renting a couple models to compare. I had this same problem with my Air compressor.. I originally bought one that would run my impact guns, but it sucked for dye grinders and paint guns.. so I ended up with 2 comprerssors. I don't want to make that same mistake with the welder, I think I will look into some Tig's.


-Robert