Cover_Yellow

I wondering what the prefered method of madness is for suspension upgrades on an FC. First drifting car, and I'm just looking for ideas. Suspension info only please. I've got the power part covered. Thanks.

Cover_Yellow

No, I'm doing another engine swap. 302 Ford.

JDUBrx7

LOL! Yeah, the FC is horrible for drifting......... I drift my N\A fc everyday. You dont need a 302, or some "turbos". You just need alot of time and some *****. I started with a ae86 before they were cool, back in 95. As for suspension, if u have ALOT of cash go with tein coilovers, if you are on a budget go with tein s-tech springs and some adjustable struts. Allthough Idont know if the tein springs would support the ungodly weight of that v8. By the way your doing nothing for the best handing car in the world by putting a v8 in it. You might want to look into some toe eliminators as well, as the rx7 dosnt have a "axl" in the back.

AusTexRex

Drifting well does involve a clutch pistonheads. It IS possible to depress rev higher and dump it for any serious breaking free you need. That is, if for some reason you can't break it free just by gassing it.

pr0digy

Not to mention the use of weight transfer/feint, aggressive braking, shiftlock, and even the handbrake. Power (not torque) is merely needed to KEEP the wheels spinning.

totallimmortal

well i know how to drift and it is much harder in my NA fc than many other cars, it just grips too damn good and like they were saying the lack of torque anfd over all power with the n/a makes braking the rear free very hard. some people have succeeded in keeping a near 50/50 wieght distribution with v8s so if the car is lightened otherwise the extra motor wieght won't hurt too much

KnoxSe7eN

I have the HKS Hyper D coil over setup and it seems to work very well.

Aznplayer911

iTrader: (1)

i like the JICs FLT-A2s my friend had them in his FC, drifted quite nicely. personally i'm saving up for the new Tein, Drift Spec.

digitalsolo

iTrader: (2)

LOL, rotards...

Suspension setup for drifting? Damn stiff basically. A good road race suspension turned up a bit on stifness will get you started, proper tuning is really hard to say, as it varies car to car, and is something you'd really have to find out on your own.

302 in an FC eh? Going carb, or staying FI?

Cover_Yellow

Thanks for all the info. As far as the toe issue goes, that should be correctable with urethan bushings in the rear to cut the deflection. My old S13 had the same issue. Great for sticking to the road though. I'm not particularly worried about the weight issue. The EFI 302 is lighter than the LS1's, and I'm going to be using aluminum in a lot of places (heads especially). Between adding a roll cage and a sound system, everything should balance out. Also, how big of a difference does power steering make on these cars. I've driven some before that were like a rail without it, and others that were like a personal gym. Just to avoid irritating anyone too much, I'm using a 302 because I'm more familiar with them. Has nothing to do with disliking a rotary. Is anyone using Ground Control coil overs? I had a set before and thought they were decent. I noticed someone mention Tein, can anyone compare the 2 from experience? Thanks again for the great info.

AusTexRex

I've driven them with power steering and without power steering.

I prefer it w/o. It's not very hard to turn the wheel at a stop, maybe a little too much to do with one hand from the top of the wheel, but if you put your hand inside to turn you can do it.
When it's moving even the slightest bit, like you said, rails.

amishboy

Ya only women and little boys need power steering !

hondahater

iTrader: (2)

guess I'm a little woman but I like my power steering.

JDUBrx7

QUOTED "Thanks for all the info. As far as the toe issue goes, that should be correctable with urethan bushings in the rear to cut the deflection. My old S13 had the same issue."

Your s13 has a rear axl. Your rx7 does not. It has a "dynamic tracking suspension system"...or dtss. The hub can shift its position in three axial directions, to alter toe-in, toe-out, and camber setting durring different drivign conditions. You need to get a haynes manual. Do a search for "rear toe eliminators", its been covered at least once in depth as far as i know. I hear they are a real bitch to install.

Cover_Yellow

No, my bad, I meant my S12. I'm tired as ****. It had IRS.

Comet

s12 eh? hmm...... anywho, TEIN is good shizzle.... if you go w/ flex coilover setup it will give you the versatility for track rnning and then drifting as well..... so far, I've found that the Shift lock has been most effective, but then again, I'm running full stock w/ stock wheels and tires......

and did they make and S12? I'm pretty sure the k's started at S13, Q's S14 and so on..... but oh well.... I've been known to be wrong.....

Cover_Yellow

S12 was before the now popular K car. I had an '86 200SX turbo. All wheel disc brakes, and IRS. Had it for a month, replaced the burnt up turbo, and ended up blowing a conn. rod out the side of the block. I was going to do an SR swap into it, but it was 2 weeks before I joined the Marine Corps, and my mom would only let me keep one car at her house. What is the general oppinion on Ground Control? I know it isn't as expensive as Tein, and HKS etc, but they do use Eibach springs.

Infini IV

Wtf, you lost me man. Every RWD car has rear axles, including the Rx7. S13 had an independent rear suspension (IRS). 1st Gen Rx7's had a "live axle" and was RWD, so therefore it has "rear axle". 2nd Gen Rx7's had IRS and was also RWD, so therefore it has "rear axles". Also, calling our rear suspension "dynamic tracking suspension system" or "DTSS" tells people nothing about the type of suspension design our cars have. A more accurate way to name what suspension design we have is to say "semi-trailing arm".

Comet

I'm thinking he meant the s13 has a solid rear axel..... but once again I could be wrong.... seems that the Montanan <---- doesn't know s**t anywho. lol I gotta get outta here and learn something!!!!

JDUBrx7

It has 2 half-axles.

marlaman

not to name any names or flame, but i'd say the vast majority of this post is a pipe dream.
SAD SAD SAD.
anybody who knows their cars would certianly know how to type what kind of car it is WITH the correct name is and know how to spell urethane correctly.--it's not that damn hard of a word to master. i got it on my first try.
i'm feeling assholish, i'm not meaning to hurt feelings or step on toes, but i see useless posts like this every day and am getting damn sick of them.
Matt

bennettaru

Well I have Cusco coilovers, pretty stiff, but grips like nothing else. You're into drift? So i guess stay away from them.

Though anyone wanting to do circuit, i highly recommend them, nothing i've ever driven drives as well as these.

MrBob 86

The S12 uses a semi-trailing arm rear suspension just like the FC. The difference of course is that the FC has DTSS and a coil over shock while the S12 uses a spring which is attached to the control arm. The S12 rear suspension is the same as the Z31 while the front is the same as the 280zx.

Not that it really matters....