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Old 12-16-05, 11:03 PM
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Question Emissions Removal Question

Ok heres my question im picking up a 87-88 TII motor once my car is painted... now once i get it im getting it rebuilt and monster streetported... im going to be running a T78 turbo, 3 in straight pipes to figh flow muffler, fmic, 720 pri and 1600 secd, all that good stuff to get around 500 whp... now what can i take off emission wise without having to premix... I mean i dont mind it i just dont feel like mixing everytime i go get gas because after a while i will just start getting annoyed... also im not going to be running a/c, p/s, and air pump... by the way this will be my daily car

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ummm...... 1600 secondarys? isnt that a little much? what kinda mpg are you looking for, or for that matter will it even once they come on? and 3in exaust may be too bug, ive heard that turbos engines benifit from 2 1/2 best. but emissions..... im thinking entire rats nest, id kill the pulsatin dampener but keep the pressure regulator kill charcoal canister air pump subzero assist vac spider and really anything that comes off the engine you cant account for. and IF you do make this engine....IF, get a standalone. good idea tho, hope it works for you, dont think you can pull off a dd withit tho. it'll be sickningly loud
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i dont mind the loudness because its loud already... my parents here me coming from 2 -3 blocks away... well 1600 is what im looking so i know i will have enough fuel in the high rpm range and with the a/f ratio with a monster streetport possibly a bridgeport i will need alot of fuel to make sure the ratio will be good... and yes i will be getting a wideband from Injected performance for tuning purpose... btw im changing to 8.5 lbs flywheel and changing the gears so i could bring to 11-13k rpms... and yes i know i need to install i shatter shield... well 3in exhaust is what everyone almost gets for turbo apps... also i will be gettin the haltech standalone and theres a rotary shop like 5-10 min from my house (acosta motor sports and New Mothers) so im not consered about the tuning part... im just trying to get rid of everything unnecessory in my car without running premix...

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DREYKO, I'm not quite sure you should post about turbos anymore O.O

1600 secondaries aren't overkill AT ALL, especially if you're looking for 500 RWHP. Hell, I'm going for 1680's myself @450RWHP..

3inch exhaust should be had on ALL TURBOS, nothing smaller!! 4inch is even better, and will make you're 500hp goal even easier to achieve.

One thing Dreyko said, yes, DO get a standalone. It will be the best thing you ever did.

And uhh, I had the same idea of a "Monster Streetport" at one time. But to get this amount of power, a "nicely-done mild" will be more than sufficient! PM Kahren on the forum for information about porting and rebuilding..his ports are the best done on the entire forum.

And UHH, unless you're going to be NA, and bridge/Pported, you WILL NOT get 11-13k RPM. Just don't even try. Please.
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Yeah, the only way you will get usable power at 11-13k is with a PPort, and you dont want that as a daily driver.
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And UHH, unless you're going to be NA, and bridge/Pported, you WILL NOT get 11-13k RPM. Just don't even try. Please.

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Yeah, the only way you will get usable power at 11-13k is with a PPort, and you dont want that as a daily driver.
Ok well thats out then... also i was debating on the port job too... It wil be either a Monster Streetport or a Bridge Port... Also i heard that my motor will last longer with the MOnster Streetport then the Bridgeport is that truw? As i said before this will be my daily driver and gas mileage dont really bother me
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any port on the motor will that life alway from the motor but you will be faster. and do you happen to live in paterson, new jersey. isn't acosta shop in jersey.
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I think your best bet will be a large street port - I don't consider any street port to be "monster" as you can only go so far with them. There really isn't much reason to get a bridgeport on a Turbo engine. The main reason to get a Bridge port is to eek the last bit of power out of an NA engine. There are many ways to get more power out of a Turbo engine other than a radical port job that will reduce engine life.
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Originally Posted by rotary_yankee
any port on the motor will that life alway from the motor but you will be faster. and do you happen to live in paterson, new jersey. isn't acosta shop in jersey.
Well yea im like 5 - 20 min from Patterson but im in Garfield and Acosta is in Wallington literaly like 5 min away... but they do GREATTTTTTTT Rotary jobs but there know how to rip a whole in your wallet lol

I went there and they wanted i believe 2300 for a rebuilt and 1000 for a Large streetport... im just going to go out of the way and let Rob from Pineapple to rebuilt and port the motor also get the rotors ceramic coated and exhaust port

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Originally Posted by Sideways7
I think your best bet will be a large street port - I don't consider any street port to be "monster" as you can only go so far with them. There really isn't much reason to get a bridgeport on a Turbo engine. The main reason to get a Bridge port is to eek the last bit of power out of an NA engine. There are many ways to get more power out of a Turbo engine other than a radical port job that will reduce engine life.
Well yea what i ment by a "Monster Streetport" is to get it as big as possible which yea your right you could consider it a Large Streetport...
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Im just starting to think that wen i send the motor out for rebuilt and all that good stuff ill Just tell rob at pineapple to remove emissions without having to premix and pay him that extra
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Personaly i dont mind the Emissions being there but the Engine bay will look so much better without them there... and for inspections yes they test emissions but regardless my car wont pass inspection 1. too low 2. Tints 3. HIDS 4. No Cats 5. Probly wont pass me because my exhaust is too loud lol... Well put it this way my cousin failed because one of the tires was almost bold... and iu have connection to DMV and just pay 100$ give a copy of registration and i get an inspection sticker
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if you have a mechanical oil metering pump i think with the setup your talking about doing you probly would want to premix those things can fail if you had all that money into your motor and you omp went bad that would suck

IMO premix would be better
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Originally Posted by driftfc87
if you have a mechanical oil metering pump i think with the setup your talking about doing you probly would want to premix those things can fail if you had all that money into your motor and you omp went bad that would suck

IMO premix would be better
Yea thats true but say i get the aluminum Oil Pan (it holds more oil) and in the eccetric shaft i would get it drilled for more oil injection
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