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Old 04-28-06, 06:11 AM
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stupid question BUT ......

ok this is silly ... but i honestly dont know any better .... my car is having a serious starting problum .. infact it has all the symptoms of flooding exept ... the plugs are BONE dry .... when its flooded will i see fuel on my plugs?.. or no ?.. that is the main question
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yes when your car is flooded then you will see fuel on the plugs. take out both leading plugs and crank your car or have some one else crank it for you so you can see if any fuel is coming out of the plug holes.

to me it sounds like you injectors arent working right if you plugs are bone dry and also i beleive it might be time for you to get new plugs
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yeah they are totaly bone dry ... rather strange actualy ... i was driving my car and it was acting normaly my af gauge was reading rich under wot and all that niftyness ... and then i was coming to a stop light so i revmatched to down shift was all gravy untill i put it in nutrle and the car just died ... and would not start after that ..... althoe it happined once b 4 earlier on in the day but it started right up after that ... crazy .. im thinking it might be a fuel pump thing of my fuel filter might be cloged
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does noone have any further insight ?... like this is my dd and it just stoped running while i was driving it ... not ive torn into alot of things and i CANNOT get the fuel pup out .. its imposible trust me ...... and as for everything else im freaking lost .... somone please help me
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check your fuses. If it just died, it sounds electrical. Check Fuel pump voltage.
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in line fuel pump?

ok all i just finaly found out y my pos car wont run fuel pump is dead .. prolly seized as per it has power going to it ... so my question to all of you is ... would i be able to use my stock in tank pump as a fuel pickup and have an inline pump to actualy do the pumping even thoe my in tank is seized ?... it should just pull the fuel through right ?
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Why not just replace the dead pump with a new one? Why do you thik you need two pumps?
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Why not just replace the dead pump with a new one?

prolly cuz its a PITA!!!

but yeah... get a new one...
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well its not that i need 2 pumps .. the oe one is dead as in no longer working .... and the screws that hold it in have turned them iselves into little ***** of rust meaning there are nbo longer heads its just fused to the tank 'so yeah ... my question is .. will the inline pump just suck through the non functional oe pump?
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Bad, bad idea...

Fix the screws. Drill them out and replace them. Do a search, lots of poeple have posted about doing this.
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electricle guru NEEDED

alright wqell i have posted a coule times in the last 24 hours trying to source my lack of fuel problum ,, well ive established that my egi relay is fully functional and my pump also works .... i tested the relay and i bypassed all electricle and boosted my pump off an old car battery .. fuel just started coming out thus meaning a functional fuel pump ..... now that leads me to belive that there is only one more spot that i could have a problum ... the relay that is located behind the gauge cluster i for get its proper name but yeah that one .. i havntr been able to find it but ill be honest ididnt look to hard im a bit to chubby to fit under my dash lol. now my question to anyone with knowladge on the subject is are relays all basicaly the same and if i were to buy one or get one from any car would i be able to use it ?... or would i have to use the mazda specific relay ?. .. and also id like to know if anyone with fuel system expericance can tell me that i might be forgetting somthing else?... this car is my dd and ive already had to miss a days worth of work because of it and unfortunatly i cant afford to miss any more ... so any knowlageable response would be SUPER awsome
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You don't have a fuel cutoff switch somewhere do you?
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no i dont ...s ee my problum is i was driving my r and everything was grand .... i was downshifting and still all good .... then i out it in nutrel reved it once to about 2500 and then it just went kaput ... no more workie ...
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and how did u discover that it's a lack of fuel?
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Install a good ENGINE fuse and go to work. See the FAQ on this site for the location of the ENGINE fuse.
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my engine is fine ..... when i disconnect the fuel lines from the pump and crank the engine NO fuel is being pumped but when i over ride everything and supply the pimp with 12 volts it pumps .... its is by no means a fuse
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Are you ...................ah, never mind.

The ENGINE fuse feeds the MAIN RELAY and the CIRCUIT OPENING RELAY. The CIRCUIT OPENING RELAY feeds the fuel pump. Get a free download of fhe fsm and take a peek.
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It works like the attached jpg:
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rotary downshift Your 3 bumps in this thread have been deleted. Bumps are forbidden here in the 2nd Gen Rx-7 technical section.

Why do you think that you are so much better than anyone else and that your question is more important than anyone elses??? Do it again, and your thread will be locked.

In addition your mutiple threads all on the same subject have been merged.

Do not start mutiple threads all on the same subject. It adds to the troubleshooting time, and makes it harder to help you, as well as wastes space.

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icemark is da $h!t ... i was KeithD on teamfc3s, was that site deleted or merged into this site?? possible to reclaim my post count??
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