Eibach Springs / Tokico Shocks
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Eibach Springs / Tokico Shocks
Does anyone have any experience with either Eibach springs and/or Tokico shocks?
I'm looking at Eibach Prokit springs and Tokico Illuminas Shocks. I searched but didn't find any real information... does anyone know how low the Eibach's lower the FC? How do these parts respond? I'm looking for a real tight suspension, I like the car to turn without hesitation or delay when I turn my steering wheel :P
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I'm looking at Eibach Prokit springs and Tokico Illuminas Shocks. I searched but didn't find any real information... does anyone know how low the Eibach's lower the FC? How do these parts respond? I'm looking for a real tight suspension, I like the car to turn without hesitation or delay when I turn my steering wheel :P
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Originally Posted by doomtrain
i currently have that setup. i love it. great handling and rides great. i strongly recommend this setup if your not doin coilovers.
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I've got that set up (Eibach Pro kit and tokico illumina's) on my 88 base. The ride is tight and responsive. Handles great.
That will lower the car like .8" I think.
That will lower the car like .8" I think.
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Originally Posted by batmang
what are some good springs to pair with tokico's to get an aggressive drop?
Here's a 1.5" drop... I really thought I saw some that dropped it by 2.0", though...
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/FreeS...spagenameZWDVW
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I use the Eibach pro-kit with tokico blues.. I was looking forward to my .8" drop I was going to get.. . It turned out the suspension on the front was original, 1986 technology (I just swapped them last year).. It ended up raising my car about .25"
I love this combo, though.. I wish I had the illuminas, but I must make due.
I love this combo, though.. I wish I had the illuminas, but I must make due.
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I gad Eibach prings and KYBs and they fine on the street but to soft for track days. They will not respond like coilovers because they are progressive springs not linear sprongs and alot softer. RSR race springs are a stiffer progressive spring and I think they are lower but may create a bit of negative camber in the rear.
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My car came with tokico HP (blue, nonadjustable) struts and eibach dual rate springs (red) when I bought it, and I've been very happy with the setup. Just stiff enough to be firm in corners and prevent scraping on steep driveways, but soft enough for street use to not be annoyingly rough.
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My setup with Tokico blues and B&G performance springs (1.5" drop, progressive rate) are OK.
They're firm, but nothing like the spring-rate that can be had with coilovers...
Overall, I'm happy with the look and the ride comfort--but I haven't really had a chance to take any decent turns, because the FIRST turn I took after picking up the car from dDub, I got PULLED OVER and was given a ticket for negligent driving!!!
Anyways, it sucked... lol.
Also, I was driving without power-steering (burned up pump) so it made my car feel unresponsive and sluggish. I just got another pump hooked up right today and I can already tell that it's going to make a HUGE difference in overall turning ability.
They're firm, but nothing like the spring-rate that can be had with coilovers...
Overall, I'm happy with the look and the ride comfort--but I haven't really had a chance to take any decent turns, because the FIRST turn I took after picking up the car from dDub, I got PULLED OVER and was given a ticket for negligent driving!!!
Anyways, it sucked... lol.
Also, I was driving without power-steering (burned up pump) so it made my car feel unresponsive and sluggish. I just got another pump hooked up right today and I can already tell that it's going to make a HUGE difference in overall turning ability.
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If you want response, don't go with the Eibach Pro-Kits.
The Eibach Pro-Kits are progressive rate springs, and they are intially soft when they compress.
Get linear rate springs, and you get better response.
Popular is Racing Beat for the price.
-Ted
The Eibach Pro-Kits are progressive rate springs, and they are intially soft when they compress.
Get linear rate springs, and you get better response.
Popular is Racing Beat for the price.
-Ted
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I don't know... this guy says the RBs are REALLY stiff... like, too stiff for street.
LINK: https://www.rx7club.com/suspension-wheels-tires-brakes-archive-112/h-r-springs-r1-shocks-justification-194635/
But, that's just his opinion, of course.
I still like the Eibach's. I don't want a race suspension or anything like that, I just want good response. I might AutoX my car at some point but, right now, it's just my lean mean cruiser
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LINK: https://www.rx7club.com/suspension-wheels-tires-brakes-archive-112/h-r-springs-r1-shocks-justification-194635/
But, that's just his opinion, of course.
I still like the Eibach's. I don't want a race suspension or anything like that, I just want good response. I might AutoX my car at some point but, right now, it's just my lean mean cruiser
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I have the eibach prokit/tokico blue on my 90 vert. Here is a post I made on a convertible specific question. The ride and handling details still apply:
My springs are for the Turbo II coupe. The eibach prokits dropped my car 5/8" -3/4" depending on corner. Noticeable and it looks nice, but not slammed. The oem springs must have sagged a little because the eibachs were supposed to drop a little more than that, more like 0.8" on a coupe. So it should have been a little more drop than the coupe. The eibachs are progressive and the car is much nicer to drive. Pavement impacts are greatly reduced. The car is much less harsh than before. There is less noise and rattles from the car body and interior when hitting pavement irregularities.
Bad part. The car feels a just little soft on initial turn-in. Much less of a knife edged handling machine. Thow it into a corner and you can feel the soft part of the progressive spring compress. Just for an inch or so. Then the suspension firms up dramatically and it becomes much firmer than the oem suspension. The car is actually faster around a corner after that. I don't like the feeling dduring that brief transition. Probably some adjustable struts would allow you to add come more control to firm up the response in that upper soft portion of the suspension travel for a substantial improvement in turn-in.
It depends on what you want. I wouldn't want a firmer spring than the oem, especially with a single rate. The vert with the top down is a fairly stiff platform, but it is still a convertible and harder springs would make it into a rattle trap.
I really like the drive of the car, but it took some getting used to in the twisties. It is totally predictable, easy and fast to drive.. The car has a more refined ride and character. More of a GT, less of a hard edged racer. I would not recommend the eibachs for autocross unless you had some Koni or AGX or Tokico adjustables, and then only maybe.
Hope that helps.
By the way, after you do the struts and springs, GET A GOOD ALIGNMENT! It makes all the difference.
My springs are for the Turbo II coupe. The eibach prokits dropped my car 5/8" -3/4" depending on corner. Noticeable and it looks nice, but not slammed. The oem springs must have sagged a little because the eibachs were supposed to drop a little more than that, more like 0.8" on a coupe. So it should have been a little more drop than the coupe. The eibachs are progressive and the car is much nicer to drive. Pavement impacts are greatly reduced. The car is much less harsh than before. There is less noise and rattles from the car body and interior when hitting pavement irregularities.
Bad part. The car feels a just little soft on initial turn-in. Much less of a knife edged handling machine. Thow it into a corner and you can feel the soft part of the progressive spring compress. Just for an inch or so. Then the suspension firms up dramatically and it becomes much firmer than the oem suspension. The car is actually faster around a corner after that. I don't like the feeling dduring that brief transition. Probably some adjustable struts would allow you to add come more control to firm up the response in that upper soft portion of the suspension travel for a substantial improvement in turn-in.
It depends on what you want. I wouldn't want a firmer spring than the oem, especially with a single rate. The vert with the top down is a fairly stiff platform, but it is still a convertible and harder springs would make it into a rattle trap.
I really like the drive of the car, but it took some getting used to in the twisties. It is totally predictable, easy and fast to drive.. The car has a more refined ride and character. More of a GT, less of a hard edged racer. I would not recommend the eibachs for autocross unless you had some Koni or AGX or Tokico adjustables, and then only maybe.
Hope that helps.
By the way, after you do the struts and springs, GET A GOOD ALIGNMENT! It makes all the difference.