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Old Mar 23, 2004 | 11:42 AM
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Easiest, Reliable, 275-295 HP?

I would like to increase the performance of my FC, TII, but at the same time not go crazy, I don't need/want anything 300+. I was wondering what people's suggestions would be on a setup that would have a fast spooling turbo that would still be capable of like 275 horses. Something that will require a good amount of work to be done but nothing insane. What do you guys suggest to get this kind of hp output without dropping astronomical figures of cash down? On a side note I realize fast and cheap is not reliable, cheap and reliable is not fast, and fast and reliable is not cheap. Just maybe examples of other's set-ups or even ideas for an original set-up it doesn't matter. All input is highly welcome, except for mean people that call others ignorant or stupid , (specifically me, for asking such a newbish question).

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Old Mar 23, 2004 | 11:50 AM
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get a BNR turbo, stage1 should do for what you want, bigger injectors, and some type of fuel control.

about 700 for the BNR
Duno about injectors, Never bought 'em.
about 300 for an S-AFC.

Also might want to think about an FMIC and a better radiator.

There are MANY lost cost alternatives to the greddy and HKS kits out there that will hold up to your HP needs, the Starion IC will probably do nicely

Koyo rads are about 350, fluidyne about 450.
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Old Mar 23, 2004 | 01:28 PM
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I would say stage 2 or 3 is your best bet to make that kind of power to the wheels.
If you get the stage 3 from BNR, I would suggest that you have him use the stock turbine and not clip it.

Then you can do an S-AFC2 to control your fuel, But you will be more happy with a stand alone. You gas millage can go up and drivability can also go up as well, less little problems.
You will need probably 880cc secondaries you could probably get away with 760cc injectors but I wouls suggest the larger ones.
You should have a good 255lph Fuel pump, maybe a good fuel pressure regulator. You don't need a FMIC to make that kind of power reliably, but if you do get a FMIC you will make more power more efficiently.
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Old Mar 23, 2004 | 02:23 PM
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Re: Easiest, Reliable, 275-295 HP?

Originally posted by Fritz_X
I would like to increase the performance of my FC, TII, but at the same time not go crazy, I don't need/want anything 300+. I was wondering what people's suggestions would be on a setup that would have a fast spooling turbo that would still be capable of like 275 horses. Something that will require a good amount of work to be done but nothing insane. What do you guys suggest to get this kind of hp output without dropping astronomical figures of cash down? On a side note I realize fast and cheap is not reliable, cheap and reliable is not fast, and fast and reliable is not cheap. Just maybe examples of other's set-ups or even ideas for an original set-up it doesn't matter. All input is highly welcome, except for mean people that call others ignorant or stupid , (specifically me, for asking such a newbish question).

Thanks again guys.

--Fritz
See sig. Its a great setup if you ask me, turbo spools really fast, car hauls *** real nicely. Lots of fun, and not absolutely retarded power or anything and still gets half decent fuel mileage.

later
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Old Mar 23, 2004 | 08:47 PM
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sad thing is, the cheapest, easiest, most reliable way to get that kind of power is by putting a *shudder* 350 ci small block V8 in your car. lol
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Old Mar 24, 2004 | 05:22 PM
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LOL, ya a chevy 350 LOL! Whatever go with the BNR turbo. As far as cheap and easy go with the 350 I see neither. It is much easier to change injectors and turbo upgrade than put in a 350. And a "DECENT" 350 is gonna cost ya some coin. Last time I checked the fastest RX7 still ran the rotary motor. Check out siguel racing. I would not poison the RX with that crap. LOL a 350. Better Yet if thats what ya want sell your 7 and buy a camaro. Why even bother with the RX7 with out the rotary. Show me a RX7 with a V8 that out does rotary performances RX7, Mazda Trix RX7 or Siguel Racings RX7 and I may start to agree that V8s are the awnswer for the RXs. Last time I checked Siguel Racing ran a high 6 second run. Mazda Trix and Rotary Performance were both running 9s and Mazda Trix is not even using a turbo.
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Old Mar 24, 2004 | 05:52 PM
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Old Mar 24, 2004 | 05:56 PM
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do you want whp or just flywheel hp if is only flywheel hp you can get a Racinbeat full exhuast that would give you 50hp and get bigger injector, a 255lhp pump that would probaly give you something close to what you want
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Old Mar 24, 2004 | 05:58 PM
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hey Ted I like the pic under your name who is she whats her name
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Old Mar 24, 2004 | 06:13 PM
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Crap. I forget.
I try to change them every week, so I don;t tend to memorize all of them.

I just came across a bunch of JDM race queens, so let's see how they come out next week.



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Old Mar 24, 2004 | 06:16 PM
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Old Mar 24, 2004 | 07:41 PM
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so ted your website is saying that i should be running mid 13's?

i my turbo wont even ATTEMPT to hold 14psi all the way to redline. its like 14psi bleeding to 8 by redline... would an electronic boost controller help this at all?
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Originally posted by jacobcartmill
so ted your website is saying that i should be running mid 13's?
Watch it - I think my hp numbers are bhp at the flywheel.


i my turbo wont even ATTEMPT to hold 14psi all the way to redline. its like 14psi bleeding to 8 by redline... would an electronic boost controller help this at all?
Yes, an EBC does wonders on holding full boost up to redline.
Try to get one with a MAP sensor, so it can run closed-loop.


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an EBC with a map sensor?

i also have a 3" downpipe mated to a 2" catback (stock gutted cat and 2" catback) could this be choking my power?
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Old Mar 25, 2004 | 01:11 AM
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Originally posted by jacobcartmill
an EBC with a map sensor?
A'PEXi AVC-R, Blitz Dual SBC

i also have a 3" downpipe mated to a 2" catback (stock gutted cat and 2" catback) could this be choking my power?
It's possible.


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up to 300RWHP
I say get a full EXhaust
Aluminum radiator and Electric fan running evens cooling liquid
airfilter
Boost controller
Fuel computer or standalone
upgraded fuel pump and regulator
Bigger Secondary injectors like 720cc
Ported wastegate
front mount intercooler FMIC
This should get you around 300RWHP at about 14 PSI boost

this is what im going for it these mods don't do it Guess Ima have to street port my motor and go haltech or microtech..

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Old Mar 25, 2004 | 12:44 PM
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Re: Easiest, Reliable, 275-295 HP?

Originally posted by Fritz_X
I would like to increase the performance of my FC, TII, but at the same time not go crazy, I don't need/want anything 300+. I was wondering what people's suggestions would be on a setup that would have a fast spooling turbo that would still be capable of like 275 horses. Something that will require a good amount of work to be done but nothing insane. What do you guys suggest to get this kind of hp output without dropping astronomical figures of cash down? On a side note I realize fast and cheap is not reliable, cheap and reliable is not fast, and fast and reliable is not cheap. Just maybe examples of other's set-ups or even ideas for an original set-up it doesn't matter. All input is highly welcome, except for mean people that call others ignorant or stupid , (specifically me, for asking such a newbish question).

Thanks again guys.

--Fritz
First of all before you start upgrading your car make sure everything is working fine mechanicaly. Do a full tune up, and all the maintenance necessary so the car is running smooth like it should be. If your looking to break into the high to mid 13"s you can do the following. Full Exhaust, Intake with 3" TID, Fuel Cut Defense. Leave the stock 550's in the primaries, use GSL-SE injectors for the secondaries if not 720"s. If you decide to go with the 720"s for the secondaries then you will need a APEXI S-AFC, or another aftermarket EMS to control your fuel, because using the 720's alone in the secondaries using the stock ECU, your car will be running Pig Rich, and be getting very bad MPG. If I were you stick to the aftermarket EMS, there more versatile, and simply better in my opinion. Change your F.Pump to a Walboro or a FD Pump. At the same time check to make sure your Fuel Pump is getting the proper voltage it needs, while your at it go ahead and rewire it, do a search on this topic as it has been covered many times already. Its recommended to Port your wastegate to avoid boost creep. Also I almost forgot to mention go ahead, and take out your injectors, and have them profesionaly cleaned and serviced to make sure there working perfectly fine. I have a long post about this subject from the past. If I were you do a search under my name, to see previous posts in regards to this matter, as it has been covered several times already.
Theres alot of good information there. Good Luck.
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