2nd Generation Specific (1986-1992) 1986-1992 Discussion including performance modifications and technical support sections.

Dual pully question

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Apr 26, 2011 | 05:37 PM
  #1  
Linguo415's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 730
Likes: 0
From: S.F.
Dual pully question

So im deleting my air pump and i will be running a dual pully kit from racing beat. Has anyone using this or anyother dual belt kit ever had any cooling issues or charging issues when in normal street use? Or maybe even a little traffic?
Reply
Old Apr 26, 2011 | 05:41 PM
  #2  
thatman's Avatar
Full Member
Tenured Member 10 Years
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Jun 2009
Posts: 179
Likes: 1
From: Minnesota
I nor my friend had any troubles from the dual alternator pulley. If thats what your talking about...
Reply
Old Apr 26, 2011 | 06:16 PM
  #3  
fcrotory's Avatar
Magic man
iTrader: (20)
 
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 365
Likes: 0
From: grants pass,oregon
It will actually make ur alternator last longer.
Reply
Old Apr 26, 2011 | 06:28 PM
  #4  
NatAsRex7's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: May 2010
Posts: 476
Likes: 0
From: crater on mars
i have one just remember to get the same sized belts as the water pump pulley.
Reply
Old Apr 26, 2011 | 07:07 PM
  #5  
Linguo415's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 730
Likes: 0
From: S.F.
Cool. I think this one is designged to run the standard belts. Just doubled ofcourse.
Reply
Old Apr 26, 2011 | 07:08 PM
  #6  
Linguo415's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 730
Likes: 0
From: S.F.
Any trouble keeping water temp down? It runs the pump slower than normal apparently.
Reply
Old Apr 26, 2011 | 08:55 PM
  #7  
RotaryRocket88's Avatar
Top Down, Boost Up
Tenured Member 10 Years
iTrader: (7)
 
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 8,718
Likes: 6
From: San Diego, CA
Why are you talking about the water pump running slower? Are you planning on buying the RB main pulley? http://www.racingbeat.com/RX7-1986-1...tem/11469.html. That's something different from the dual sheave alternator pulley: http://www.racingbeat.com/RX7-1986-1...tem/11479.html

Underdrive pulleys are not great for street driving. I briefly used a 54mm Atkins dual pulley on an FD alternator, and was not pleased to find it barely charging the battery at idle. Add any additional electrical load, and it would just drain slowly. Using the stock belt may not work either; I had to test fit a bunch of larger belts until I found the right size. You'll be better off with a stock-diameter pulley around ~40mm.
Reply
Old Apr 27, 2011 | 01:17 PM
  #8  
Linguo415's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 730
Likes: 0
From: S.F.
im talking about the kit. That includes the pain and the alt double sheeve pulleys.
Reply
Old Apr 28, 2011 | 03:08 PM
  #9  
diabolical1's Avatar
Moderator
Tenured Member: 20 Years
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 10,998
Likes: 349
From: FL
if you're planning to buy them, then i'll assume you realize that RB, themselves, caution you about the use of the underdrive main for street driving as a part of it's description.

anyway, i have used their alternator pulley since the 90s, and for what it's worth, i haven't experienced any charging issues. i also agonized over getting their main pulley for while, but i eventually decided against it because i couldn't find any user feedback on it.
Reply
Old Apr 30, 2011 | 12:45 AM
  #10  
JustJeff's Avatar
Apex Seal Treachery!!!!!!
Tenured Member 15 Years
iTrader: (13)
 
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 2,406
Likes: 2
From: Indiana
I'm using the dual alt pulley with the rotor on the front. I've had all kinds of problems getting both belts even. No matter what, if one was right on the other was too loose or tight. I'd have one belt squeel and the other was fine. So I'd tighten it up a little and the one that was right on was now too tight. I tried moving the belts around. I tried different brands of belts. I tried making sure the belts were made at the same time (had corresponding part numbers). I then tried replacing the loose belt with one size smaller. I may go to using a Pineapple Yoohoo belt.
Reply
Old Apr 30, 2011 | 12:52 AM
  #11  
Linguo415's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 730
Likes: 0
From: S.F.
^ thats weird. The whole point in dual belts is minimise belt slip.
Reply
Old Apr 30, 2011 | 06:23 PM
  #12  
RotaryRocket88's Avatar
Top Down, Boost Up
Tenured Member 10 Years
iTrader: (7)
 
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 8,718
Likes: 6
From: San Diego, CA
It's not that uncommon. It's difficult to find 2 belts that are exactly the same length, so one ends up tighter than the other. Just because they have the same PN, doesn't mean they're identical.
Reply
Old Apr 30, 2011 | 11:03 PM
  #13  
farberio's Avatar
NASA-MW ST4
Tenured Member: 20 Years
iTrader: (7)
 
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 3,800
Likes: 3
From: Norcal, Bay Area
I have the RB Main pulley and I am using an FD alt with the J2LA pulley. Main is underdrive and alt is non-underdrive. My lights dim at idle but other then that no real problems. I am using H4 bulbs instead of the stockers.
Reply
Old Apr 30, 2011 | 11:10 PM
  #14  
texFCturboII's Avatar
version 2.0
Tenured Member 15 Years
iTrader: (17)
 
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 3,596
Likes: 2
From: Fort Worth, TX
Originally Posted by RotaryRocket88
It's not that uncommon. It's difficult to find 2 belts that are exactly the same length, so one ends up tighter than the other. Just because they have the same PN, doesn't mean they're identical.
try explaining that to a freaking autozone employee...... they look at you like, wtf are you talking about?
Reply
Old Apr 30, 2011 | 11:18 PM
  #15  
JustJeff's Avatar
Apex Seal Treachery!!!!!!
Tenured Member 15 Years
iTrader: (13)
 
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 2,406
Likes: 2
From: Indiana
Originally Posted by RotaryRocket88
It's not that uncommon. It's difficult to find 2 belts that are exactly the same length, so one ends up tighter than the other. Just because they have the same PN, doesn't mean they're identical.
I had read that you're more likely to get belts of the exact same length if they were sequentially numbered. I'm having a hard time remembering the details but this is what i remember. There are sequential numbers as the belts are cut during manufacturing. Not the part # mind you. So if you have sequential numbers they were right next to each other and less likely for the length to vary as much.

A friend at a shop I've been spending time at suggest I pack some sort of filler in the looser belt pulley channel. I forget what he said he's used in the past. Once my engine is back if I"m still having the same trouble I'll be asking him.
Reply
Old Apr 30, 2011 | 11:21 PM
  #16  
JustJeff's Avatar
Apex Seal Treachery!!!!!!
Tenured Member 15 Years
iTrader: (13)
 
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 2,406
Likes: 2
From: Indiana
Originally Posted by texFCturboII
try explaining that to a freaking autozone employee...... they look at you like, wtf are you talking about?
LOL, yes I had exactly that experience. I asked the guy for sequentially numbered belts and he looked at me like I spoke latin. I explained to him how every belt varies a little and he tried explaining to me that every belt is measured and every part # is the same length.
Reply
Old May 1, 2011 | 02:20 AM
  #17  
Linguo415's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 730
Likes: 0
From: S.F.
What are the numbers to look at as far as the sequense? I know mine say n530 but as far as i know that is the part number?
Reply
Old May 1, 2011 | 04:10 AM
  #18  
john ward's Avatar
oi oi oi
Tenured Member 05 Years
iTrader: (7)
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 611
Likes: 1
From: wilmot,oh
Some old school brands still sell matching belts but if not keep tightening the one till it stretches the same. You will probably never find a exact twin pair of a common brand at a corporate store. I ahd to use stretch technique before and the alt. rebuilder we use at shop blamed rubber dust as culpruit of it failing
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
_Tones_
Adaptronic Engine Mgmt - AUS
10
May 25, 2021 05:37 AM
Enzo1944
New Member RX-7 Technical
2
Sep 6, 2015 08:57 AM
Nosferatu
2nd Generation Specific (1986-1992)
7
Sep 5, 2015 02:13 PM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:44 PM.