Doing 5 Lug conversion, need new Struts
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Doing 5 Lug conversion, need new Struts
Ok, i searched and came up will 1.45 million threads, 99% of which just confused m more.
So this is a 2 part question, first off.
I am about to pull out the whole drivtrain for a 5 lug and LSD conversion. While i am in there i need new struts.
My question is, what to get? Price is a big factor, cheaper the better, unless there is a major quality differnce if i spend a little more.
I have found some Gabriel struts all 4 for under $200. Anyone used these? Any other better brands for a simular price? What have ya
ll used for cheap and had good experiances with?
Now for the other and really more important part, while i am doing this conversion and have most of the drivetrain apart, what else should i replace while i am in there and it is easy? bushings, hoses, things like that? Once i get this back together i don't want to have to mess with the drivetrain for awhile.
Whats parts go out and are cheap to replace? Also, how would i test the LSD to see if it is really dead?
So this is a 2 part question, first off.
I am about to pull out the whole drivtrain for a 5 lug and LSD conversion. While i am in there i need new struts.
My question is, what to get? Price is a big factor, cheaper the better, unless there is a major quality differnce if i spend a little more.
I have found some Gabriel struts all 4 for under $200. Anyone used these? Any other better brands for a simular price? What have ya
ll used for cheap and had good experiances with?
Now for the other and really more important part, while i am doing this conversion and have most of the drivetrain apart, what else should i replace while i am in there and it is easy? bushings, hoses, things like that? Once i get this back together i don't want to have to mess with the drivetrain for awhile.
Whats parts go out and are cheap to replace? Also, how would i test the LSD to see if it is really dead?
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either get the whole rear subframe with the 5 lug stuff and the LSD intact.and then Change out the Front Hubs and brakes to 4 piston ..or get the Five lug stuff,and the Lsd and install them..your suspension question is kind of Tricky..it depends on What you are using the car for..you can go close to Stock,with the Gabriels or Go to Coilovers,and have the Car so tight that running over a Pebble will Jar your Eye *****!..Honestly,if you are On a budget,get What YOU want..If you Start "investing" in the car you will find that When you sell it,you won't get the money you put into it..suspension close to stock or Just stock is Ok for Daily driving and the Odd Auto Cross..But getting into Coilovers means Money.,.and If you Have the Money..go for it...as far as Bushings,Hoses,Get What the car needs..You shouldn't go and Buy a Big BULK of stuff,and then go to replace it and find out the car doesn't need it..Tear into the car,Find out what you are looking at,parts wise and get them..(no Money wasted..no extra parts.)..
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I actually have an 86 GXL parts car i will be getting the 5 lug conversion from. It had a TII swap done to it so some of the parts are TII and some are GXL.
I am one of those people that likes to replace too many parts vs to few and have to rip apart XXX again to replace it later. the body does have 230k miles on it, so a lot of things are worn out i am sure. When i did drive it the suspension was GONE but the steering seemed fairly tight, not new by anymeans but not bad for that high of miles.
Now for the struts and springs, as i said, what is on there is GONE. So i don't have any idea what even stock would feel like.
What i am looking for is a comfertable ride for daily driving with a little lowering if i got new springs. but i also want it to be able to have fun on a track should i get out there once or twice a year.
My biggest problem is i have no idea what stock feels like, right now any turn gives Massive body roll and it feels tippy at any kind of speed. i come from trucks as pretty much all i have driven other then cars like a corolla ect, aka NOT sporty.
I want a car that feels better then those cars and is just fun to drive.
What is stock suspension like?
I am one of those people that likes to replace too many parts vs to few and have to rip apart XXX again to replace it later. the body does have 230k miles on it, so a lot of things are worn out i am sure. When i did drive it the suspension was GONE but the steering seemed fairly tight, not new by anymeans but not bad for that high of miles.
Now for the struts and springs, as i said, what is on there is GONE. So i don't have any idea what even stock would feel like.
What i am looking for is a comfertable ride for daily driving with a little lowering if i got new springs. but i also want it to be able to have fun on a track should i get out there once or twice a year.
My biggest problem is i have no idea what stock feels like, right now any turn gives Massive body roll and it feels tippy at any kind of speed. i come from trucks as pretty much all i have driven other then cars like a corolla ect, aka NOT sporty.
I want a car that feels better then those cars and is just fun to drive.
What is stock suspension like?
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On ebay, they have a complete set for $189.
Though i just found a better deal and bought all 4 for a total of $118 from another ebay auction. For the price i could not pass it up. Guess i will see how they work.
Though i just found a better deal and bought all 4 for a total of $118 from another ebay auction. For the price i could not pass it up. Guess i will see how they work.
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Ok, i am now looking for springs.
I really want to know what the stock ride is like when everything is in good condition. It is a lot of body roll? controlable? comfertable?
While i am doing the shocks i might as well get new springs. i just don't know which ones to get (brands also but mainly spring rate/drop). Also, i will have 215/60r15 tires on the car when it is done, maybe bigger later.
Can these be lowered any without causing problems? how much? 1"? 1.5"?
I really want to know what the stock ride is like when everything is in good condition. It is a lot of body roll? controlable? comfertable?
While i am doing the shocks i might as well get new springs. i just don't know which ones to get (brands also but mainly spring rate/drop). Also, i will have 215/60r15 tires on the car when it is done, maybe bigger later.
Can these be lowered any without causing problems? how much? 1"? 1.5"?
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I have been looking at the tien springs, i just noticed the spring rate on them is a lot more then stock and they lower by 1". So i didn't know if that would work well for a DD.
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I am sure they are sagged some with 230k miles on them.
What was ride like stock though? i am just trying to decide if these would be ok for a comfertable ride? i want something i can take the GF for a ride in and she will like the ride. but still add some performance to it.
What was ride like stock though? i am just trying to decide if these would be ok for a comfertable ride? i want something i can take the GF for a ride in and she will like the ride. but still add some performance to it.
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that pretty much what i was thinking. And actually i would prefer no drop but all the springs i see have a drop to them. which i would not mind just not looking for.
Already have stock style shocks on the way.
Here are the springs i am looking at, what do ya'll think:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/TEIN-...spagenameZWDVW
They say a 1" drop and they are stiffer then stock, about 30 - 35% more. I have no idea what kind of ride they will give though.
Already have stock style shocks on the way.
Here are the springs i am looking at, what do ya'll think:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/TEIN-...spagenameZWDVW
They say a 1" drop and they are stiffer then stock, about 30 - 35% more. I have no idea what kind of ride they will give though.
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if u have the money. go with the illuminas. trust me they are awesome! they are adjustable from 1 (softest) to 5 (stiffest) and trust me the soft setting is really soft. they are awesome but cost a little money. plus i'm riding on the eibachs. i love the setup. but i wanna go lower. and our roads are shitty in montana. i just love the mountain roads! lol
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Tanabe gf210 FTW!!!
i have Tanabes and Tokico Illuminas and it rides awesome and handles great. i know next to nothing about the Tein springs except i hear they ride nice
i have Tanabes and Tokico Illuminas and it rides awesome and handles great. i know next to nothing about the Tein springs except i hear they ride nice
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The best suggestion anyone on this board should give you here is to find a wrecked or non-running S5 pull all the drive train and suspension/brakes off of it install on your car and go form there. The energy suspension stuff is ok ish you could use that to upgrade your bushings while there, as far as shocks/springs the Blue Tokico's are the cheapest best IMO for the rex, then springs you can do whatever really.
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I'm still sticking with Tein springs.
They aren't going to make you feel like your driving a crown vic, but their not super hard and going to make you feel every small bump in the road.
They aren't going to make you feel like your driving a crown vic, but their not super hard and going to make you feel every small bump in the road.
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The best suggestion anyone on this board should give you here is to find a wrecked or non-running S5 pull all the drive train and suspension/brakes off of it install on your car and go form there. The energy suspension stuff is ok ish you could use that to upgrade your bushings while there, as far as shocks/springs the Blue Tokico's are the cheapest best IMO for the rex, then springs you can do whatever really.
Thats what i was wanting to hear. I just want the ride to be nice for longer drives with the GF. but still handle as well as possible.