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Do-Luck Floor support bars - How do these work?

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Old Feb 19, 2007 | 12:11 AM
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Arrow Do-Luck Floor support bars - How do these work?

I was looking around and found these:

http://www.raretrick.com/index.asp?c...roductsID=6001

DOes anyone know how they are installed or the logic behidn them? I wouldnt spend the money for them but if its worth it in theory ill make my own.
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Old Feb 19, 2007 | 12:22 AM
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+1 was going to post a thread about this myself, searched and had no luck, would also like to know, thanks guys.
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Old Feb 19, 2007 | 12:26 AM
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i think they run on the floor rite next to the door sills and bolt into the area where the storage bins are if you get what im sayin
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Old Feb 19, 2007 | 12:31 AM
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The cusco ones are nicer....

and well..... CRAZY amount of money.... crazyness
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Old Feb 19, 2007 | 12:44 AM
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if anyone on here has them just figure out where they bolt/weld and make some of your own. thats crazy money
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Old Feb 19, 2007 | 01:06 AM
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Originally Posted by MrSector9
The cusco ones are nicer....

and well..... CRAZY amount of money.... crazyness

the side pillar bars?
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Old Feb 19, 2007 | 01:08 AM
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yeah i noticed that after....

different appliction, but they are still nicer
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Old Feb 19, 2007 | 03:35 AM
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My mate runs a genuine do-luck floor brace, looks very very different to this, but i assume they work on the same concept.
Overall it seems to work really really well, i was trying to chase one down for ages but the genuine ones are rarer than hens teeth. Just another way to stiffen the rear up a bit and thus reduce chassis flex some more. In terms of effectiveness i'd say they're slightly more effective than a rear brace that goes across the rear struts.\

Anyone have any links to similar braces? I've seen a few around but can't re-find them.
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Old Feb 19, 2007 | 05:09 AM
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I think everyone is mistaking these Floor bars with the floor crossbar. These mount underneath the chassis, next to the frame-rails, and they mount longitudinally to the car. The floor crossbar that everyone is mistaking for the floor bar, mounts INSIDE the car, and it mounts laterally behind the seats and in front of the storage bins.
In the case of the Cusco bars, they're much cheaper, look cooler, and perform the same function and have more mounting points for less stress.


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Old Feb 19, 2007 | 08:51 AM
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Old Feb 19, 2007 | 09:12 AM
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$494 for something that can be made in 2 hours out of $20 worth of metal...Seems slightly excessive to me.
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Old Feb 19, 2007 | 09:47 AM
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So these basically just run parallel to the frame rails under the door sills? It seems simple enough I might try to make some this week when I make my lower arm bar.
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Old Feb 19, 2007 | 10:03 AM
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a friend added these to his camaro and it made a big difference as far as wheel hop and such....different car sure but same concept.
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Old Feb 19, 2007 | 10:44 AM
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if your gonna do something do it right put a cage in. It will make the car alot more positive and may save your life one day and doesnt cost any more.
if you dont drive fast or hard enough to need a cage you dont drive fast enough to need these.
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Old Feb 19, 2007 | 10:52 AM
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the floor xbar, is really just a "mid section" strut tower bar in sense of functionality. Most guys that used them have notice less "door creeking" rolling down the driveway, a more firm and responsive feel as the chassis flex less inbetween the wheels.

then again i dont know what I am talking about.
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Old Feb 19, 2007 | 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by matthewromeril
if your gonna do something do it right put a cage in. It will make the car alot more positive and may save your life one day and doesnt cost any more.
if you dont drive fast or hard enough to need a cage you dont drive fast enough to need these.

Well a cage is expensive and if im not wearing a helmet in the event of a rollover(which I only rarely do on the way to work ) I will most likely sustain a worse injury from contacting the cage than I would have sustained without it. From what ive been taught a helmet, cage, and harness should either be used all at once or not at all. Saying I dont drive hard or fast enough to need these is a bit of an ignorant comment, better acceleration and handling can be felt at speeds where a cage would just be retarted. However, thanks for the feedback.
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Old Feb 19, 2007 | 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Mechanic
the floor xbar, is really just a "mid section" strut tower bar in sense of functionality. Most guys that used them have notice less "door creeking" rolling down the driveway, a more firm and responsive feel as the chassis flex less inbetween the wheels.

then again i dont know what I am talking about.

Thats exactly what im looking for, a more rigid feel when changing lanes, a little more response all around. Im also lookign at foam filling some parts of the frame.
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Old Feb 21, 2007 | 03:55 PM
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i would do front and rear strut barces and a polly bush kit that will make a much bigger difference than a mid bar. I have front and rear strut bars, polly bush kit, cage and g4 coilovers and the thing that made the biggest difference was the polly kit from maxdatrix also worth doing the rear sub frame and diff mounts. and the kit was the cheapest thing.
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Old Feb 21, 2007 | 04:31 PM
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Hahhaa not this again.... There was a giant thread on this a few weeks ago (forgot if it was the 2nd gen section or the 3rd gen section). A few mods were even involved in teh argument about how they're basically rip offs and won't provide any "stiffening" at all. The seller (or designer?) gave up and just walked away because he got his *** handed to him by a few mods and a few experienced members. Don't do it Tommy!
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Old Feb 25, 2007 | 03:50 PM
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Poly bushings are going in soon as well.

I wasnt planning on buying these just questioning the principle to determine if I should make my own,

BTW: who are you cashmachine?
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Old Feb 25, 2007 | 04:29 PM
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i bet $500 can be spent way better than on these floor support bars. and out of curiousity, what happens to the stiffness of the chassis when braking and accelerating?
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