Deos anyone make a serpentine belt system for the 13B?
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Atkins sells a Ribbed belt pulley kit. Not a true serpentine belt like an FD has but it is as close as you will get. I have one of them and love it. But unfortunately I am changing classes of racing and it is not legal for me to use in the new class.
PM me if you would like to buy it.
BTW: The kit only comes with the main pulley, water pump pulley and alternator pulley. You can't run an airpump, air conditioner or power steering pump with it.
http://www.atkinsrotary.com/newengpr.htm
^^^ scroll down towards the bottom of the page.
PM me if you would like to buy it.
BTW: The kit only comes with the main pulley, water pump pulley and alternator pulley. You can't run an airpump, air conditioner or power steering pump with it.
http://www.atkinsrotary.com/newengpr.htm
^^^ scroll down towards the bottom of the page.
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Originally posted by ThePartsTrader
Atkins sells a Ribbed belt pulley kit. Not a true serpentine belt like an FD has but it is as close as you will get. I have one of them and love it. But unfortunately I am changing classes of racing and it is not legal for me to use in the new class.
PM me if you would like to buy it.
BTW: The kit only comes with the main pulley, water pump pulley and alternator pulley. You can't run an airpump, air conditioner or power steering pump with it.
http://www.atkinsrotary.com/newengpr.htm
^^^ scroll down towards the bottom of the page.
Atkins sells a Ribbed belt pulley kit. Not a true serpentine belt like an FD has but it is as close as you will get. I have one of them and love it. But unfortunately I am changing classes of racing and it is not legal for me to use in the new class.
PM me if you would like to buy it.
BTW: The kit only comes with the main pulley, water pump pulley and alternator pulley. You can't run an airpump, air conditioner or power steering pump with it.
http://www.atkinsrotary.com/newengpr.htm
^^^ scroll down towards the bottom of the page.
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The kit is not designed to run Air Conditioner, Power Steering or Emessions Air Pump. This is pretty much a race only part because you cant run any of the accessories besides the alternator.
As I said: "BTW: The kit only comes with the main pulley, water pump pulley and alternator pulley. You can't run an airpump, air conditioner or power steering pump with it."
As I said: "BTW: The kit only comes with the main pulley, water pump pulley and alternator pulley. You can't run an airpump, air conditioner or power steering pump with it."
Originally posted by asherwood
I may be interested, but if this replaces the main pully how would you run the A/C and PS pumps?
I may be interested, but if this replaces the main pully how would you run the A/C and PS pumps?
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Originally posted by $150FC
What advantage is there to running the serpentine system?
What advantage is there to running the serpentine system?
The wider belt gives better grip to the water pump and alternator and is not as complicated as the dual pulley system.
It does not have to be pulled as tight to get grip so it is supposed to be easier on the bearings of the alternator.
The belt lasts longer.
And I think it has less rotating mass than a dual pulley system.
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Originally posted by ThePartsTrader
The kit is not designed to run Air Conditioner, Power Steering or Emessions Air Pump. This is pretty much a race only part because you cant run any of the accessories besides the alternator.
As I said: "BTW: The kit only comes with the main pulley, water pump pulley and alternator pulley. You can't run an airpump, air conditioner or power steering pump with it."
The kit is not designed to run Air Conditioner, Power Steering or Emessions Air Pump. This is pretty much a race only part because you cant run any of the accessories besides the alternator.
As I said: "BTW: The kit only comes with the main pulley, water pump pulley and alternator pulley. You can't run an airpump, air conditioner or power steering pump with it."
But appearently not...too bad. I'm out
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Originally posted by ThePartsTrader
Atkins sells a Ribbed belt pulley kit. Not a true serpentine belt like an FD has but it is as close as you will get. I have one of them and love it. But unfortunately I am changing classes of racing and it is not legal for me to use in the new class.
PM me if you would like to buy it.
BTW: The kit only comes with the main pulley, water pump pulley and alternator pulley. You can't run an airpump, air conditioner or power steering pump with it.
http://www.atkinsrotary.com/newengpr.htm
^^^ scroll down towards the bottom of the page.
Atkins sells a Ribbed belt pulley kit. Not a true serpentine belt like an FD has but it is as close as you will get. I have one of them and love it. But unfortunately I am changing classes of racing and it is not legal for me to use in the new class.
PM me if you would like to buy it.
BTW: The kit only comes with the main pulley, water pump pulley and alternator pulley. You can't run an airpump, air conditioner or power steering pump with it.
http://www.atkinsrotary.com/newengpr.htm
^^^ scroll down towards the bottom of the page.
1. It is a true serpentine pulley kit.
2. You can run all accesories with this kit, including the smog pump.
3. The stock pullies for the AC, PS, and smog pump will have to be utilized.
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Originally posted by Rotorlution
Correction.
2. You can run all accesories with this kit, including the smog pump.
3. The stock pullies for the AC, PS, and smog pump will have to be utilized.
Correction.
2. You can run all accesories with this kit, including the smog pump.
3. The stock pullies for the AC, PS, and smog pump will have to be utilized.
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Originally posted by mazdaspeed7
Wrong. The smog pump goes off the water pump belt. So you could not run the smog pump with this pulley set. I am unsure if the stock pulleys for a/c and p/s will bolt onto the main serpentine pulley either. It may, but I wont know until I have a set(should be soon).
Wrong. The smog pump goes off the water pump belt. So you could not run the smog pump with this pulley set. I am unsure if the stock pulleys for a/c and p/s will bolt onto the main serpentine pulley either. It may, but I wont know until I have a set(should be soon).
Forgot to mention that the smog pump belt also goes around the main crank pulley, not just the water pump. Not sure if I made that clear enough above.
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Originally posted by Rotorlution
Wrong again! Just buy an extra AC belt and run it directly from the stock pulley after the atkins serpentine (main crank pulley) to the smog pump. The ONLY reason Mazda has an extra belt running across the water pump is to reduce slippage of the belts at the water pump, not at the smog pump. For the record I do not have AC or PS but it will work with all three.
Forgot to mention that the smog pump belt also goes around the main crank pulley, not just the water pump. Not sure if I made that clear enough above.
Wrong again! Just buy an extra AC belt and run it directly from the stock pulley after the atkins serpentine (main crank pulley) to the smog pump. The ONLY reason Mazda has an extra belt running across the water pump is to reduce slippage of the belts at the water pump, not at the smog pump. For the record I do not have AC or PS but it will work with all three.
Forgot to mention that the smog pump belt also goes around the main crank pulley, not just the water pump. Not sure if I made that clear enough above.
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Originally posted by mazdaspeed7
It wont line up genius.
It wont line up genius.
Funny how the system works on my car. Funny how your dumb *** thinks the smog pump belt runs around the water pump pulley only. Dude, you gotta alot of nerve calling me genius. Practice something new, comment on what you know, not what you think you know.
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The air pump is lined up with the outer of the 2 belts on the water pump pulley. The serpentine pulley kit replaces both of those belts. If you add a pulley to the main pulley, the smog pump pulley will be in its normal place, but the main pulley will be sticking out farther, and they wont line up. It may work, but the belt wil be pulled at an angle, and not work well. You should take your own advice. The smog pump IS run off one of the belts driving teh water pump.
Whats the point of using that kit if you still have the smog pump and a/c and p/s anyways?
Whats the point of using that kit if you still have the smog pump and a/c and p/s anyways?
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Originally posted by Rotorlution
Correction.
1. It is a true serpentine pulley kit.
2. You can run all accesories with this kit, including the smog pump.
3. The stock pullies for the AC, PS, and smog pump will have to be utilized.
Correction.
1. It is a true serpentine pulley kit.
2. You can run all accesories with this kit, including the smog pump.
3. The stock pullies for the AC, PS, and smog pump will have to be utilized.
If you are having to use stock parts to run the accessories then how are you running "all accessories with this kit", stock parts are not part of the kit.
Please post a picture of your pulley setup I would like to see how your AP pulley lines up with the main pulley on the front of the Atkins pulley.
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Originally posted by ThePartsTrader
A true serpentine belt system has an idler pulley and pulleys that run on both sides of the belt somwhere on the system. And even Atkins website just calls it a ribbed belt system. Nowhere do they call it a serpentine belt system.
If you are having to use stock parts to run the accessories then how are you running "all accessories with this kit", stock parts are not part of the kit.
Please post a picture of your pulley setup I would like to see how your AP pulley lines up with the main pulley on the front of the Atkins pulley.
A true serpentine belt system has an idler pulley and pulleys that run on both sides of the belt somwhere on the system. And even Atkins website just calls it a ribbed belt system. Nowhere do they call it a serpentine belt system.
If you are having to use stock parts to run the accessories then how are you running "all accessories with this kit", stock parts are not part of the kit.
Please post a picture of your pulley setup I would like to see how your AP pulley lines up with the main pulley on the front of the Atkins pulley.
1. The atkins belt (in this case a Gates 6 groove ribbed belt) is identical to ANY belt used on what YOU would call, a "true serpentine" pulley system. However, some (most) serpentine system's use a 4 groove belt providing even less contact to the surface area. This may be true with an FD's serpentine system but I honestly havent looked. Maybe an FD owner can chime in and give us some input.
2. True, most serpentine systems use a spring-loaded pulley (idler pulley) that maintains tension on the serpentine belt. The reason for this is for doing away with the need to retension the belt when it is replaced. Thats all!!!
3. It is called a serpentine belt because of the way it snakes around the various pulleys. However, on our cars there is no need to do that as it is a strait shot. This of course is ideal, as the more pulley's the belt wraps around the more drag that occurs.
As you can see, the atkins pulley kit is just as good if not better then the traditional serpentine pulley kits out on the market.
I will admit that when I purchased the kit I wasnt concerned with smog, that has since changed. I also have no AC/PS but I still maintain that the kit will work with those accesories as well. Call Atkins if you dont believe me.
But I guarantee you this belt is identical to 95% of the serpentine belts out there, with the exception of it being a 6 groove, which of course is better anyway.
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