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Old Oct 31, 2007 | 04:16 PM
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Cut through everyone's hearsay

Ok it's been months. My TII hasn't moved an inch (unless I push it). I've searched the hot start issues more times than I blow my nose in a year. Cut the crud and somebody give me some solid sources, or spill their guts on the subject. I'm sick of posting what's happening with my car, so somebody give me some good and bad scenarios and an idea of what I can do to be able to drive the beast.
search me in the threads for my cars details, or pm me
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Old Oct 31, 2007 | 04:37 PM
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so you think your car is flooded, but it's not starting?!!?
smell the oil. smell like gas? or coolant? If so, you've got a blown seal. Car wont start until the seal is replaced.
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Old Oct 31, 2007 | 10:41 PM
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Originally Posted by 1n1tialjdr1ft
Ok it's been months. My TII hasn't moved an inch (unless I push it). I've searched the hot start issues more times than I blow my nose in a year. Cut the crud and somebody give me some solid sources, or spill their guts on the subject. I'm sick of posting what's happening with my car, so somebody give me some good and bad scenarios and an idea of what I can do to be able to drive the beast.
search me in the threads for my cars details, or pm me
That is too Mickey Mouse if you want help.

If you really want someone to help you... you need to search and post everything you have done on the car.

Not tell someone else to do so.

Not some cop out attitude.

YOU need to post details, and what has been done to the car. YOU need to post what has been tested. YOU need to only start one thread on a subject, so if you have started multiple threads on this, then YOU are the bone head.

Make it easy for someone competent to help you and they will. Make them work and they will ignore you.
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Old Oct 31, 2007 | 10:48 PM
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What's with all the whiny kids nowadays?


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Old Oct 31, 2007 | 10:53 PM
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What's with all the whiny kids nowadays?
I know, I really wanted to just slap him because of his crappy attitude. I mean come on- search his posts for what he thinks the problem is??? WTF is that?
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Old Oct 31, 2007 | 10:59 PM
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so if your car has hot starts that means low compression,blown coolant seal flooding your engine out so it wont start again,maybe a chipped apex seals....maybe if i had details i would know
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Old Nov 1, 2007 | 01:07 AM
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have you checked your injectors?? WHAT HAVE YOU DONE TO YOUR CAR??

If you blow your nose as well as you search then remind me to run if you ever sneeze.

I kinda knew not to expect much based on the poster's ID name. :shrug:
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Old Nov 1, 2007 | 01:35 AM
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Spray starter fluid in your intake and try and start it dumbass
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Old Nov 1, 2007 | 02:22 AM
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ok im a dumbass hmm posted it time and time again.. here it is again:

hmm ok well here it is AGAIN:

Car has the following modifications:
87 RX-7 FC 2nd Gen
1987 Mazda RX-7 Turbo
Complete Engine Rebuilt
Streetport on intake and exhaust ports
2 550cc and 2 720cc injectors
ACT Clutch and PP
R-Teck 1.7 ECU upgrade
hardened stationary gears
New engine and tranny mounts
Racing beat full exhaust..
relocated battery (optima yellow top)
Blitz blow off valve
Hawk brake pads on all four corners
Koyo Aluminum radiator
FD alternator with rotor dual pulley
HKS Air Filter
3" Custom TID

At first we can start the car right up but once its running it runs rough from 1k to 3k rpm then its smooth until about 5k then its rough again after warming up it wont idle well and when the car dies or i turn it off it will not start again until it is completely cooled. When the car is totally warmed up there is no hope at all. if u want some parts let me know im sick of this im an impatient piece of dungdung doo poo bird i hate this car to be honest screw rx7s get rid of this car completely i just want to pass math man
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Old Nov 1, 2007 | 04:27 AM
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Originally Posted by 1n1tialjdr1ft
ok im a dumbass
Yes. Yes you are.

Originally Posted by 1n1tialjdr1ft
im an impatient piece of dungdung doo poo bird
Again, you speak the truth. This is one the stupidest ramblings I have ever read on this forum... Doo poo bird?

Originally Posted by 1n1tialjdr1ft
i hate this car to be honest screw rx7s get rid of this car completely i just want to pass math man
Get a bus-pass, seriously. We don't need people like you cluttering up our internet OR our streets.
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Old Nov 1, 2007 | 04:30 AM
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Oh yeah, sell your Rx7 to someone with either a G.E.D. or an IQ of above 70... At the VERY least someone who can tie their shoes and doesn't have a proclivity towards velcro.
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Old Nov 1, 2007 | 05:00 AM
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Isn't the RTEK 1.7 designed for 4 x 720's?


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Old Nov 1, 2007 | 05:24 AM
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yup. it is.

So if you hate your car so much, why don't you sell it to me?
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Old Nov 1, 2007 | 05:30 AM
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1.8 is for 4x720.
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Old Nov 1, 2007 | 08:35 AM
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Lower the amount of fuel delivered during START.
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Old Nov 1, 2007 | 08:37 AM
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its obviously not a hot start issue if the engine floods out while running.

Did you try putting the stock ecu/injectors back in yet?
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Old Nov 1, 2007 | 01:34 PM
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it always smells like fuel after startup and once its hot it will not start at all no matter my efforts. It also pours out greyish smoke when im running it. should i try out 4 550 injectors? how can i change up the fuel delivery during start? oh sorry my rambling was the effect of a lonnnng halloween night
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Old Nov 1, 2007 | 01:39 PM
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also, having a large intake AND exhaust port will require you to pull some timing for the car to start and respond to the throttle.
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Old Nov 1, 2007 | 03:59 PM
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well when you're ready to sell PM me cause I'm in Cheyenne,WY and that's not that far of a drive I'll come pick it up.
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Old Nov 1, 2007 | 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by 1n1tialjdr1ft
it always smells like fuel after startup and once its hot it will not start at all no matter my efforts. It also pours out greyish smoke when im running it. should i try out 4 550 injectors? how can i change up the fuel delivery during start? oh sorry my rambling was the effect of a lonnnng halloween night
The Primarys are the only ones used during start and once running the secondarys only come online over 3800 rpms PLUS LOAD. If you leave the vacuum hose to the boost sensor off and plug that line, then the secondarys will come online everytime you go over 3800 rpm.

The ECU uses a START MAP inside the ECU for fuel duiring STARTING and does NOT use the AFM for fuel delivery during Start. The AFM is used
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Old Nov 1, 2007 | 05:08 PM
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Did you check compression? (I think that is not the problem, but it is good to rule it out.)

If it is flooding at startup/running rich while running, it sounds like it needs smaller injectors.

Watching the exhaust with a wideband O2 sensor would help to verify this.

I would try the smaller injectors.

Also check temperature/fuel map/coefficient (not sure if rtek has one).

A port job with too much overlap will make starting hard with a stock map due to exhaust charge polution at low speeds.
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Old Nov 1, 2007 | 05:51 PM
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were the 720's installed in the right fuel rail?? come on guy give us at least 10% effort on t his thing. So far you've posted NOTHING that could HELP US HELP YOU! So either start posting up serious info or stop wasting your/our time.
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Old Nov 1, 2007 | 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by TehMonkay
its obviously not a hot start issue if the engine floods out while running.

Did you try putting the stock ecu/injectors back in yet?
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So. He was kidding around when he wrote " the car dies or i turn it off it will not start again until it is completely cooled."
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Old Nov 1, 2007 | 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by HAILERS
The Primarys are the only ones used during start and once running the secondarys only come online over 3800 rpms PLUS LOAD. If you leave the vacuum hose to the boost sensor off and plug that line, then the secondarys will come online everytime you go over 3800 rpm.

The ECU uses a START MAP inside the ECU for fuel duiring STARTING and does NOT use the AFM for fuel delivery during Start. The AFM is used
Logged off before finishing. The AFM is used after the rpms reach over 500rpm. IF the Start signal to the ECU is removed, the ECU uses the AFM for fuel delivery and injects less fuel during Start. Try that for the Start problem.
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