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Old Jun 5, 2003 | 12:31 PM
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Jb weld becomes brittle at high temperatures, I would trust that less than I would the insert itself. You dont remember what happened to the original JB weld sleeve guy's motor?
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Old Jun 5, 2003 | 01:23 PM
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noob question... What are sleeves and wha are there purpose?

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Old Jun 5, 2003 | 01:32 PM
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Go search the archives for information on 6 ports or sleeves, or do a general search using the function up by the red featured car on the right corner of your screen.

IT's too big of an explanation to get into in this thread (trying to keep it on topic), but suffice to say theyre a variable intake for more top end power. IT's a hollow cylinder with a hole cut in one end that rotates to align with a port in the engine allowing air to enter the extra port.
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Old Jun 5, 2003 | 01:34 PM
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If you take off the lower intake manifold, there will be 2 round cylindrical inserts that slide into ports in the end housings. The sleeves are hollow and are open on one side near the tip. When below ~3800RPM, the closed side of the sleeve is facing inward, so that no airflow makes it to the engine. Once you hit ~3800rpm or so, your auxillary port actuators pressurize, and rotate the sleeves so the open part faces in, allowing more airflow into the engine. The Pineapple inserts are curves, fitting into the stock sleeve to allow a better transition of airflow..
Hope I explained that well...
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Old Jun 5, 2003 | 01:44 PM
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sounds like a great application for Red Loctite.
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Old Jun 5, 2003 | 01:48 PM
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Does loctite have a heat rating?? Remember this insert is near the combustion chamber, and is reaching some fairly high temeratures..
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Old Jun 5, 2003 | 01:50 PM
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Plus there are no threads for the loctite to adhere to. I dont know that it would do the job.
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Old Jun 5, 2003 | 01:55 PM
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BTW, I think I have been watching too many of those forensic science shows on discovery...





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Old Jun 5, 2003 | 02:00 PM
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Have you e-mailed Rob on this?
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Old Jun 5, 2003 | 02:16 PM
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No, I figured sources close to him on this and other forums/lists would apprise him of the situation. The times I have emailed him I have gotten no response in the past.
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Old Jun 5, 2003 | 02:23 PM
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Originally posted by hypntyz7
Go search the archives for information on 6 ports or sleeves, or do a general search using the function up by the red featured car on the right corner of your screen.

IT's too big of an explanation to get into in this thread (trying to keep it on topic), but suffice to say theyre a variable intake for more top end power. IT's a hollow cylinder with a hole cut in one end that rotates to align with a port in the engine allowing air to enter the extra port.
darn, I was too lazy, haha thx I wil do that.

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Old Jun 5, 2003 | 02:38 PM
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That is screwed

I wished I still had the old rotor housing from a T2 around here. Some teeth on the stationary gear broke, and the rotor decided to sl;edgehammer the rotor housing at aout 7,000 rpm, needless to say it was way way worse
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Old Jun 5, 2003 | 03:03 PM
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Originally posted by hypntyz7
Plus there are no threads for the loctite to adhere to. I dont know that it would do the job.
Did you know that LOTS of Production and GT racers put loctite on the outside of the rotor bearing to keep them from walking and spinning? bearing is smoooooootttttthhhhhhhh..........
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Old Jun 5, 2003 | 03:06 PM
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No ****. Well, everytime I have personally tried loctite (red) on a smooth surface, it doesnt seem to do quite the job I would like. Perhaps it is the answer for this problem though.

BTW, you guys might want to keep a check on the sister thread to this post on the FC3S forum at http://www.teamfc3s.org/forum/showth...threadid=14253

A source close to PR has posted and a resolution is in the works, it appears.
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Old Jun 5, 2003 | 03:16 PM
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For those of you too lazy to read the other thread on TeamFC3S, Rob's preferred method is Green Loctite, as per Blake Qualley's post.

Instructions are soon to be posted on PR website.
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Old Jun 5, 2003 | 03:31 PM
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Originally posted by JerryLH3
For those of you too lazy to read the other thread on TeamFC3S, Rob's preferred method is Green Loctite, as per Blake Qualley's post.

Instructions are soon to be posted on PR website.
Looks like Rob knows how to use Loctite better than you do hypntyz7. No ****.
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Old Jun 5, 2003 | 03:48 PM
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Originally posted by hypntyz7
No ****. Well, everytime I have personally tried loctite (red) on a smooth surface, it doesnt seem to do quite the job I would like. Perhaps it is the answer for this problem though.

BTW, you guys might want to keep a check on the sister thread to this post on the FC3S forum at http://www.teamfc3s.org/forum/showth...threadid=14253

A source close to PR has posted and a resolution is in the works, it appears.
What about loctite sleeve retainer? It was meant to bond to smooth surfaces.
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Old Jun 5, 2003 | 05:06 PM
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I have the PR insets, I cleaned them very well, And when I went to PR Rob installed them for me, he put some red loctite and then peened(sp) the insets for further protection from them falling in, red loctite works good for this application. And if you want to can rough up the mating surfaces of the insert and sleeve to get a better hold.
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Old Jun 5, 2003 | 06:16 PM
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Theres a reason I make mine out of nylon, and pin them into the sleeve...
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Old Jun 5, 2003 | 06:55 PM
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Looks like Rob knows how to use Loctite better than you do hypntyz7. No ****.
Looks like he knew he was supposed to, smartass. No ****.
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Old Jun 5, 2003 | 07:30 PM
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Damn whats up with all the hostility lately? And MS7 comes up with another great idea, any chance you can make a **** load of them?
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Old Jun 5, 2003 | 08:12 PM
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hypntyz7 you are one passionate rx7 lover. keep up the great work and keep the info flowing!
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Old Jun 5, 2003 | 08:54 PM
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wow... I always questioned about those holding up in the sleeves. I think i read a thread from royjames about his goin in the chambers and ripping everything up..nice pics hypntyz7
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Old Jun 5, 2003 | 09:17 PM
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wow... I always questioned about those holding up in the sleeves. I think i read a thread from royjames about his goin in the chambers and ripping everything up..nice pics hypntyz7
If I recall correctly, his weren't PR sleeve inserts, they were homemade inserts made of JB Weld. Bit of a difference.
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Old Jun 5, 2003 | 09:38 PM
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Originally posted by j200pruf
Damn whats up with all the hostility lately? And MS7 comes up with another great idea, any chance you can make a **** load of them?
What kind of interest would there be? Im leanign towards no unless there is lots of interest.
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