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Crossroads of buying an FC Turbo II or N/a

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Old Apr 4, 2003 | 05:26 PM
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i say go n/a. maybe cuz im bias
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Old Apr 4, 2003 | 06:28 PM
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I say buy a TII. It looks better in stock form, goes faster, handles just the same as an N/A. The N/A is slow, just slow....and the TII is much easier to modify. The reliability issue is not that huge of a deal. The TII is reliable, you just can't be as careless as you can be with an N/A. Both are fun cars, but if you want to have a decently fast car, buy the TII. I got my dad's 86' base model N/A. It needs help. I want to get rid of it and buy something faster(a TII).
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Old Apr 4, 2003 | 07:34 PM
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N/A's suck, i would get a t2 if you ever do any kind of spirited driving, the na just lags, and i say this having driven a modded n/a and then homebuilt it into a beast turbo 2.
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Old Apr 4, 2003 | 07:53 PM
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Blah blah blah...

This dude has the N/A hooked up for $750. Buy the N/A. Drive the N/A. See if someone will let you take their TII for a rip sometime, and compare. Then if ya decide you don't like the N/A, sell it -- you're not gonna lose any money, and you might learn a few things.

Ya, you could "homebuild... a beast TII", if you've got mad cash to drop into it. If ya wanna have a car to go to work in, that may not be the greatest idea...
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Old Apr 4, 2003 | 08:14 PM
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Yeah, he should take the N/A, even if he doesn't want it, he can make money off of it since the engine is brand new.
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Old Apr 4, 2003 | 11:07 PM
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Get a TII. I would personally love to have a TII but they are semi-rare in my area and I didnt have much money when I was shopping for my first car. An N/a cant take a turbo in the corners PERIOD. The TII is heavier but is also equipped with better wheels, brakes, and tires.
There are several NA models that handle just as well as a T2. Ever heard of an RX-7 Sport, '88 GTU, GTUs? Same brakes too. If a person really wants the T2 wheels they bolt right up to the aforementioned models. I don't think they make that big of a difference though.

Daily driver= NA
Project/weekend warrior=T2

T2s are well worth the price tag, but virtually all of them have seen many miles of hard driving. Expect to spend a lot more money than you would on an NA.

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Old Apr 5, 2003 | 05:01 AM
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Uh i retract my previous statement, n/a's are good cars, they just don't have the same kind of power, i wish i still had my n/a when it comes to driving everyday.
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Old Apr 5, 2003 | 09:38 AM
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There are several NA models that handle just as well as a T2. Ever heard of an RX-7 Sport, '88 GTU, GTUs? Same brakes too. If a person really wants the T2 wheels they bolt right up to the aforementioned models. I don't think they make that big of a difference though.
I said an n/a cant take a TII in the corners. Because they cant. Maybe the GTUs but when people say that n/as handle better just isnt true for the most part.
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Old Apr 5, 2003 | 12:14 PM
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wana see alot of 7's go to sanfrancisco they have about 2,000-3,000 i saw 100 in 1 day!
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Old Apr 5, 2003 | 12:26 PM
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Originally posted by BDoty311
I said an n/a cant take a TII in the corners. Because they cant. Maybe the GTUs but when people say that n/as handle better just isnt true for the most part.
I think the weight difference between the two levels the playing field a bit. Having all that extra power that comes with a T2 isn't going to help you if you don't know when to put it down. Why do you think that NAs are more oftenly used for autocross?

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P.S. The GTUs is the heaviest of the NAs that I mentioned.
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Old Apr 5, 2003 | 12:30 PM
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You found an 86 base with a new engine for $750?!?!

I want it if you don't buy it.

Base NA = quickest, just put an LSD and 15x7's with 225 rubber on it.

I have never driven a TII. I figure I can live with a 14 sec. daily driver for now.
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Old Apr 5, 2003 | 03:41 PM
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I think blackmotorsport skipped the part where he said that he is buying a base model 86'. Its fun to toss around a bit, but the lack of straight line power is kinda sad....
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Old Apr 5, 2003 | 07:16 PM
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Originally posted by rx-7s rock
I think blackmotorsport skipped the part where he said that he is buying a base model 86'. Its fun to toss around a bit, but the lack of straight line power is kinda sad....
Actually no I didn't, and the name is Blacksport. Read through the thread again and you will see why I pointed out that not all NAs are lesser equipped. In the populous land of Civics and Accords, the NA RX-7 is not so sad in a straight line afterall....

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Old Apr 5, 2003 | 07:19 PM
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Originally posted by 88IntegraLS
You found an 86 base with a new engine for $750?!?!

I want it if you don't buy it.

Base NA = quickest, just put an LSD and 15x7's with 225 rubber on it.

I have never driven a TII. I figure I can live with a 14 sec. daily driver for now.
14 sec? Is that your 0-60mph? Just kidding. But where do you get that time?

Isaac
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Old Apr 5, 2003 | 07:21 PM
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Why do you think that NAs are more oftenly used for autocross?
They are cheaper.
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Old Apr 7, 2003 | 01:08 AM
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Originally posted by BDoty311
They are cheaper.
Price is an obvious contributing factor, but not the only one. That was my point.

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Old Apr 7, 2003 | 01:16 AM
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Originally posted by BlackSport0187
14 sec? Is that your 0-60mph? Just kidding. But where do you get that time?

Isaac
That is my Integra's 0-60 time but also the goal 1/4 mile time for my FC project. Actually, the goal <=13.99

First gens with stock ports, full exhaust, slicks and an EFI six port 13b have done < 14
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Old Apr 7, 2003 | 03:18 AM
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For this kid I would say get the N/A and learn how to work on them and whats in store. I see guys who dont know **** try and step into the turbo world only to get burned...WOrk your way up to the T11 , thats what im doing.

T11 are way funner trust me. Although my N/A is no slouch. Reving past redline for long periods of time is so much fun something N/A owners dont do as much because most of them are stock or just run shitty. Check out my sig. My car is sick and faster thna a stock turbo or even mildly modded one.

So get the N/A but remember im telling you the T11 is alot funner to drive. You will feel like a man with the turbo noises and torqe and ****.
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Old Apr 7, 2003 | 09:59 AM
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I would buy the N/A. For $750 you couldn't get a better car than N/A RX-7. Also N/A RX-7 is lot easier to work on than a turbo, lots of room under the hood compared to the Turbo.

As far as handling goes both cars are equally good. I have TII and N/A, both has LSD, same brake packages (4 piston in the front), but the steering wheel on my NA is slightly ticker, and it also has AAS so I like the handling characteristics of my NA little better,but both are fun cars to drive.

If you plan to learn about the rotary and work on your own car I would recommend buying a NA. If you already have a daily driver and considering buying a project or a weekend car buy a TII.
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Old Apr 7, 2003 | 10:20 AM
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well i have an NA an i love it but id really love a turbo an i think i want one

but heres my question

Why do people say a NA handle so much better than a turbo???
anyone wouldve thought it would handle better

but you can easily get a turbo to hadle pretty good

Last edited by crazyassrx7; Apr 7, 2003 at 10:46 AM.
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Old Apr 7, 2003 | 10:43 AM
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im with blacksport
you make it seem like NA's are slowww but in the streeets, you will be whoopin up on those garbage *** vtechs an hooked up hondas

put it this way

when i take my NA out i hardly race vtechs cuz most of the time its a waste cuz i whoop them up

cars i have beaten in the last 2 weeks with my mildly ported 90 gtu
-new rsx type s
- 99 jetta with a 75 shot of nos
-new Se-R ( car is fast az ****, who wouldve thought)
-2000 civic si with a lot of mods
-2.7 audi A6 2.7 biturbo ( but has hydros)
- random GSR integras
-eclipse gst with exhaust

so you can double think that

do you know if the engine is ported on this guys car???
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Old Apr 7, 2003 | 11:03 AM
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dude, its $750, with new engine.
And overall, IT IS A RX7!! I like those FC even more than my S14.
I drool everytime when I get a chance to drive my friend's 90 GTU. But of course, I drool more when my other friend let me to drive his TurboII.
but let say, $750 for an extra car to drive and play around. I will jump on it in millisecond.
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Old Apr 7, 2003 | 11:03 AM
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LOL stock ports I beat

3000GTSL
HOndas
Preludes ( 3 of them )
Miatas
2002GTS Eclipse (210hp)
Trucks
Other N/A rx7s
lots other ****
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