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Old Feb 25, 2003 | 06:39 PM
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could i beat this mustang

Um basically 1995 black 5.0, alluminum heads, edelbrock hi/low intake, e303 cam, underdrive pulleys, diablo comp. chip, steeda short-shifter, tremec transmition, shorty headers, 3.73 gears, x-pipe, flows....a couple other goodies I know he has all of this stuff. But i have heard rumors of a supercharger or turbo. And possibly nitrous. 1/4 mile what do you guys think. My mods at 14psi.
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Old Feb 25, 2003 | 07:16 PM
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I think you may nose him. My freind had that same car with ALL the bolt ons, but with out turbo/supercharger, and no cam/heads. He would run 14.0 at about 108 mph. The damn car just wouldn't hook up. Even a launch at 1200rpm would send him fish tailing down the track. He needed suspension work bad. From a roll the car would walk away from ls1 powered f-bodies. those 5.0's take to mods very well, be care full, don't talk any ****.....
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Old Feb 25, 2003 | 07:49 PM
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yea with those mods he is easily in the 13s all motor. it would be a good race i think
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Old Feb 25, 2003 | 08:05 PM
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RX7withNitrous with your mods listed it sounds like youd be around at least 13's or so i mean you have a hell of a lot of mods done, what are you running? and these 95 5.0's are they v8's? cuz if they are itll be really close, not too mention you say its rumored he has some form of forced induction? If so then id say youd be kinda pushing it, what i would do is find out for sure i mean if you think about it does this dude know your on this forum? If so he can see all your mods and you dont even know for sure what hes got under his hood.
dunno man its gonna be close id find out for sure what your getting yourself into before you put any money down, if any at all.
Good luck let us know

You know on a side note i always here ppl say there racing some dude and they NEVER post what happened like if they won or lost. Whens the last time you guys have seen somthing like, "Raced that WRX today and won"
Make sure to post.
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Old Feb 25, 2003 | 08:30 PM
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it would be close, my step brother had a 5.0 V8 with dual flowmasters, i think you would be pushing your rx7 against it and it would come pretty even, but yah like the last guy said check what hes got in it first, if hes got supercharger then id advise not goin for money

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Old Feb 25, 2003 | 08:32 PM
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Question is, what do you run?
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Old Feb 25, 2003 | 08:57 PM
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well i have pretty much the same mods as ricerocket and he runs 11's and dyno'd at 423rwhp. So im thinking i should be close to that with my boost controller.

Don't they only have 215 hp stock?
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Old Feb 25, 2003 | 09:12 PM
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Something like that. But they also have a butt load of torque. Honestly dude, if you havent taken your car to the track before I really dont see you being able to launch that well. Ive seen people who claim they are really good drivers that cant even pull a 2.2 60ft (which is kind of shitty IMO).

A 2.0 on street tires is pretty good, 1.7-9 with drag radials, 1.4-6 (or lower) with slicks. Just my opinion.
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Old Feb 25, 2003 | 09:43 PM
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I have to agree with "drox", if you havent ran your car at the track then your probably not up to par, as far as getting a really good launch on the stang is concerned.
Im a firm beliver that practice makes perfect. You definetley have to practice to get a good feel for your car
especially launching it off the hole. Everybody has a diffrent style of driving, therefore some of us are, are more gifted than others when it comes to driving. But my advice to you is take it to the track, and squeeze some time slips out of the T-II to see where your car is at. Then just practice your launches at the track, to see what your 60ft times are, and what you need to work on.
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Old Feb 25, 2003 | 10:03 PM
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On a timeslip, the 60ft mark is the most important time on there unless you are bracket racing. Which most people never do and its just for competitions, you can sit there at the light for 10 seconds then take off and still get a good slip. Your reaction time will obviously suck, but it doesnt mean anything. Its better to take your time than **** up. If I were going to race a stang I thought I might lose to, Id do it at a track with slicks
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Old Feb 25, 2003 | 10:08 PM
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beating the mustang

I'm new to this forum and don't have an rx7, but my friend does and i enjoy helping him mod it. My cup of tea is domestics and street legal drag racing. the mustang seems pretty hot. In a piston engine the relationship between camshaft and cylinder heads is crucial. His cam is a ford motorsports cam that is pretty mild, but his heads could be anything. The 5.0 mustang crowd has the worlds biggest aftermarket devoted to them. the heads could be stock replacements cast in aluminum or some that are capable of supporting over 1000hp. Find out more about his heads if they are over 190cc on the intake runners he may have some serious power. The best heads are Air Flow Research, Trick Flows, or Brodix, if they are any of these be careful. With all his other mods he probably has a little less rwhp than you. If you race him be easy out of the hole, He will probably fry his tires off the line. When your turbo takes in and you start to pull he won't be able to catch you. However if he does have nitrous, a centrifugal belt driven supercharger, a kenne bell supercharger, or more importantly a turbo like you, graciously decline his offer to race if you don't want to lose. I think you should race him just to show him the potential of Rx-7s. Most mustang guys hate imports and associate all of them with the fast and the furious 17sec civic ricers. If you kept within 5 car lengths of him it would blow his mind!
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Old Feb 25, 2003 | 10:14 PM
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Re: beating the mustang

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The best heads are Air Flow Research, Trick Flows, or Brodix, if they are any of these be careful.
Please be more careful with comments like this. I would gladly take an engine matched to a set of Yates High-ports over the TFS-R, Brodix, or AFR-205's, any day of the week.

Of course, the Yates is a ridiculously expensive race head, requiring gobs of custom work, but for making power, it "bests" every head you listed.
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Old Feb 25, 2003 | 10:41 PM
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yates heads

I totally agree. The heads i listed were realistic ones that you could expect to see on a typical mustang out roaming the streets. If the mustang does have yates heads the rx-7 will lose. THe kind of mustang that runs yates heads on the street is the same kind of mustang that has a TFs lower intake and a Vortech mondo box upper fed by a 98mm precision turbo and runs 8's. Next time i will be more careful. I thought that the info would be relevant to the situation. Its good to see that knowledge of domestics is on this forum. I don't hate any car well that's a lie I hate all cars that are front wheel drive.
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Old Feb 25, 2003 | 10:59 PM
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Re: yates heads

Originally posted by chris406
I totally agree. The heads i listed were realistic ones that you could expect to see on a typical mustang out roaming the streets. If the mustang does have yates heads the rx-7 will lose. THe kind of mustang that runs yates heads on the street is the same kind of mustang that has a TFs lower intake and a Vortech mondo box upper fed by a 98mm precision turbo and runs 8's. Next time i will be more careful. I thought that the info would be relevant to the situation. Its good to see that knowledge of domestics is on this forum. I don't hate any car well that's a lie I hate all cars that are front wheel drive.
It pleases me as well to see another person who can set aside ignorance and like all cars for what they are.

I like mustangs. They do what they were designed to do very well; straight line muscle.

The newest Cobra is looking to make the mustang into a sports car now, too. Hmm, a mustang that can handle and brake, and widely available to the public? (the 2002 Cobra R can also handle and brake, but at only 300 units, it's not exactly "available"). That'll be nice change, and well overdue!


Turbo mustangs are a lot more rare than centrifugal supercharged cars. Typically, I am used to seeing something like a paxton Novi 3000 matched to either a mondo box, or something like a hogan sheet metal custom intake in big power set-ups.
However, the twin-turbo 5.0 cars are certainly coming up on their own, and making hella impressive timeslips to boot.
Such as Christina Eldert's streetable car... mind you, you can guess why I'd follow her results.

How closely do your follow Pro 5.0?


anyway... aside from the thread hijack.
I think the race will come down to racer ability. Everything equal, I'd put money on the mustang.
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Old Feb 25, 2003 | 11:18 PM
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i don't think the guy has that much work done he's in high school he can't have that much **** in it. I know he is going to spin like crazy off the line. I went out tonight and launched a few times from different rpm's and im getting my tires to hook up pretty good. I'm reving to about 4k and slowly letting off the clutch i grabs pretty quick. I have really wide tires in the back. I think my rims are made my welds or weds or something like that.
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Old Feb 25, 2003 | 11:23 PM
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well the way you make it sounds its all about the driver
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Old Feb 25, 2003 | 11:33 PM
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im hoping i can jump him off the line and get to third
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Old Feb 26, 2003 | 01:43 AM
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well....if he starts gaining...coast over towards him, if hes paying attention he might do a freak out. With the kind of evil scheming i have, this is why i don't drag race. Nice to see a knowledgable domestic guru with respect for all cars, import or otherwise ^_^. Yea, Front wheel drive cars suck ***, but AWD is the ****
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Old Feb 26, 2003 | 01:54 AM
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yea just bust is but off the line. make him play catch up and make a mistake. i hope he dont have f/i or your in trouble though
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Old Feb 26, 2003 | 01:57 AM
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booo.
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Old Feb 26, 2003 | 02:25 AM
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I wouldn't put any money on it... I doubt you could beat my stock Stang.
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Old Feb 26, 2003 | 02:32 AM
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you can do it!!!!
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Old Feb 26, 2003 | 02:33 AM
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this makes me a 'rotorite'

sorry had to do it.
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Old Feb 26, 2003 | 02:34 AM
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oops, this does....lol
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Old Feb 26, 2003 | 03:23 AM
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I think a few people neglected to mention the torque this car will have. I doubt youll beat it off the line. Most Rx7s play catch up for this reason.
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