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Old Jun 7, 2012 | 02:40 PM
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convertible top leaking

I just picked up an 88 vert rained last night and found two puddles on my seats. Looks like its coming from where the window and the top mess the A pillar. Did the research found this is common but no one says how they fixed the problem. Also where can I find replacement door/ weather seals?
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Old Jun 7, 2012 | 03:53 PM
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Old Jun 7, 2012 | 04:31 PM
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Is there any seals where the window meets the targa ?
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Old Jun 7, 2012 | 06:14 PM
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Looks like its coming from where the window and the top mess the A pillar. Did the research found this is common but no one says how they fixed the problem.
I have worked on this quite a bit, nothing completely fixed it.

Park it inside or use a car cover.
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Old Jun 7, 2012 | 06:26 PM
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It's the rubber gutters not in alignment (too low from the top of the A pillar or pulled away from the channel flopping down) so can't catch the drips or torn and water is flowing through the rubber gutter.

1. Loosen the press in gutters and move them as high as possible on the A Pillar. Slide the gutter under the channel ridge. Best to use some silicone adhesive to help is stay there.

2. If the gutter is torn, seal with silicone.
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Old Jun 8, 2012 | 03:42 AM
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It's the rubber gutters not in alignment (too low from the top of the A pillar or pulled away from the channel flopping down) so can't catch the drips or torn and water is flowing through the rubber gutter.

1. Loosen the press in gutters and move them as high as possible on the A Pillar. Slide the gutter under the channel ridge. Best to use some silicone adhesive to help is stay there.

2. If the gutter is torn, seal with silicone.
excellent i appreciate the help!, also can i get pictures of the gutter and channel ridge?
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Old Jun 8, 2012 | 09:20 AM
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It's the rubber gutters not in alignment (too low from the top of the A pillar or pulled away from the channel flopping down) so can't catch the drips or torn and water is flowing through the rubber gutter.

1. Loosen the press in gutters and move them as high as possible on the A Pillar. Slide the gutter under the channel ridge. Best to use some silicone adhesive to help is stay there.

2. If the gutter is torn, seal with silicone.
I've done all that. Don't expect perfection. The leaks are reduced, but not eliminated.

If I leave the vert out in a texas thurderstorm with wind and downpour, I still get water inside.
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Old Jun 8, 2012 | 02:22 PM
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I've done all that. Don't expect perfection. The leaks are reduced, but not eliminated.

If I leave the vert out in a texas thurderstorm with wind and downpour, I still get water inside.
I'm just wondering, was it like this when the car is new? i was like 10 yrs old back then so i have no idea ... lol
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Old Jun 8, 2012 | 03:48 PM
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Pictures. See "flap" at top edge of A-pillar




The gutters work best while driving down the road. But it's common to get drippage when just sitting still getting rained on hard. Part of owning a Vert.
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What I have found, especially on the driver's side, is that this 'gutter' had drooped down and in towards the inside of the car. This way, instead of catching and directing the water that WILL (by design) get into your car down the drain channel, it falls on your seat, armrest, window controls, etc.

My fix was to check for leaks / tears as others have suggested, and then prop it out and up, away from the A-pillar. You'll want to test the exact positioning and extent of movement away from the pillar because you'll get to a point where when you close the door, the door will crush the gutter. Once you have it propped and in place where it functions well, silicone in place to finish. I found a good, flexible, black-colored type at the hardware store....made for roofing, I believe. Look around to find something that will fit the application well.
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Old Jun 9, 2012 | 07:03 AM
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What I have found, especially on the driver's side, is that this 'gutter' had drooped down and in towards the inside of the car. This way, instead of catching and directing the water that WILL (by design) get into your car down the drain channel, it falls on your seat, armrest, window controls, etc.

My fix was to check for leaks / tears as others have suggested, and then prop it out and up, away from the A-pillar. You'll want to test the exact positioning and extent of movement away from the pillar because you'll get to a point where when you close the door, the door will crush the gutter. Once you have it propped and in place where it functions well, silicone in place to finish. I found a good, flexible, black-colored type at the hardware store....made for roofing, I believe. Look around to find something that will fit the application well.
Yep. RTV Black works for this just fine.

Both my cups are siliconed up in to the correct position. It helps.
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Old Jun 9, 2012 | 07:16 AM
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Old Jun 9, 2012 | 02:44 PM
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The gutters work best while driving down the road. But it's common to get drippage when just sitting still getting rained on hard. Part of owning a Vert.
awesome thanks for the help everyone!, so i pulled that gutter up more on the A pillar and its definitely catching the water now! im going to take a picture here soon on the targa portion
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