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Old May 8, 2006 | 06:01 PM
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Convertible suspension

Is there a difference in the convertible and coupe FC suspension?

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Old May 8, 2006 | 06:05 PM
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Some coupes came with adjustable struts that allowed you to soften and harden the suspension.
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Old May 8, 2006 | 06:08 PM
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As far as bolting up an aftermarket suspension, I believe there is a difference between the bolt batterns for coupe and vert. The only thing I have to base this on is that racingbeat makes suspension for fc's and they have two different sets for coupe and vert.
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Old May 9, 2006 | 04:37 AM
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Originally Posted by mmmjesse
Is there a difference in the convertible and coupe FC suspension?

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AFAIK, the convertible has the same suspension as the T-II, but the N/A models.
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Old May 9, 2006 | 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Attila the Fun
AFAIK, the convertible has the same suspension as the T-II, but the N/A models.
No, Convertible Spring and Stabilizer bars are different. Different compression weights, different sizes than Turbo suspension parts.

For example the rear stabilizer bar on a 'vert is 13mm, while turbos used a 14mm and non turbo coupes used 12mm.
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Old May 9, 2006 | 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Icemark

For example the rear stabilizer bar on a 'vert is 13mm, while turbos used a 14mm and non turbo coupes used 12mm.

Now theres some mis-information.

I thought we already went through this Ice...

There is only one rear stabilizer bar for all 86-88 models, a 13mm. The sport suspension only changed the front stabilizer bar, from 22mm to 24mm.

For the 89-91 models, there is only one front stabilizer bar, a 24mm. S5 verts only have one rear stabilizer bar option, a 12mm. Coupes with the sport suspension have a 14mm rear stabilizer bar. Coupes without sport suspension have a 12mm rear stabilizer bar

And to think, all this informantion is in these 2 threads.

https://www.rx7club.com/2nd-generation-specific-1986-1992-17/specifications-what-did-2nd-generation-rx-7-come-w-options-standard-features-249616/
https://www.rx7club.com/2nd-generation-specific-1986-1992-17/frequently-asked-questions-2nd-generation-rx-7-faq-fc-494667/
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Old May 9, 2006 | 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by bigdv519
Now theres some mis-information.

I thought we already went through this Ice...

There is only one rear stabilizer bar for all 86-88 models, a 13mm. The sport suspension only changed the front stabilizer bar, from 22mm to 24mm.

For the 89-91 models, there is only one front stabilizer bar, a 24mm. S5 verts only have one rear stabilizer bar option, a 12mm. Coupes with the sport suspension have a 14mm rear stabilizer bar. Coupes without sport suspension have a 12mm rear stabilizer bar

And to think, all this informantion is in these 2 threads.

https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.php?t=249616
https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.php?t=494667
Wanna try again, The Standard Features and Options thread does not contain the info and the shop manual links in the FAQ for FC were long ago proved to be inaccurate for some models specs (GTUs models and S4 convertibles).
Next time try the parts manual...

<edit... hmmm links were not working for the parts manual I'll repost the links and pictures tonight.

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Old May 9, 2006 | 12:54 PM
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It says on there that Vert's are 12mm like the non-sport Coupes...
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Old May 9, 2006 | 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by 13b4me
It says on there that Vert's are 12mm like the non-sport Coupes...
No, again read the post.

The parts manuals call them different.
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Old May 9, 2006 | 01:01 PM
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I read it and read it again, and I see nothing of a 13mm stabilizer bar...
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Old May 9, 2006 | 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by 13b4me
I read it and read it again, and I see nothing of a 13mm stabilizer bar...
As I said the Parts manuals call them different. Sad people don't read.

But the links are not working for the pictures for the parts manuals, so since you do not appear to read anything but pictures, I will download, save the images, and repost the pictures from the parts manuals tonight.
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Old May 9, 2006 | 01:09 PM
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Oh no I read what you posted, and it just didn't correlate with the images you posted... Not my fault you suck at teh intarweb...
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Old May 9, 2006 | 01:11 PM
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Oh no I read what you posted, and it just didn't correlate with the images you posted... Not my fault you suck at teh intarweb...
I posted 4 images, unfortantly two from the parts manual were on some other server. I don't have time to download them do a screen shot, shirnk them to a size that people can read without bitching and save them to my own server right now.

Tell you what, I'll just unlink the existing pictures too so that people don't get confused like you did.
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Old May 9, 2006 | 01:14 PM
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Yea that's cool... Take your time... I'm intrigued now...
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Old May 9, 2006 | 06:33 PM
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well, tell me this. What i really need to know is what aftermarket suspension i can use for my 88 vert.
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Old May 9, 2006 | 07:30 PM
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Any aftermarket suspension will work with either coupe or vert...
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Old May 9, 2006 | 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by mmmjesse
well, tell me this. What i really need to know is what aftermarket suspension i can use for my 88 vert.

Ok, but now tell us this: What do you want to do with it? Drifting? Autocross? Performance driving? Do you just want to go real low and impress those Honda drivers? Each of those purposes needs a little different set up and they are all available.

You can use any spring/shock combo that fits the coupe. Same with the antiroll bars. Some people will tell you that the vert is too heavy for coupe springs. They are wrong. This has been argued and settled on several threads.

I personally have a 1990 'Vert with Eibach Prokits springs. They are the TII version. I also have Tokico Blue shocks. The prokits are a progressive rate spring that gives a much reduced tire impact over road irregularities. The springs get very firm once you get through the first inch or two of wheel travel. This setup was a huge upgrade from the stock springs and shocks. The drop was about 5/8" which looks very good without looking slammed. A further improvement over this would be adjustable struts, agx or tokicos.

Did that help?
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Old May 9, 2006 | 10:09 PM
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i personally am a fan of the RB Vert kit they make with springs designed around the specifications and weight loads of the convertable and the kit also includes sway bars the kit is like 430 bucks, but its well worth it for Racingbeat quality
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Old May 9, 2006 | 10:13 PM
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Originally Posted by jackhild59
Ok, but now tell us this: What do you want to do with it? Drifting? Autocross? Performance driving? Do you just want to go real low and impress those Honda drivers? Each of those purposes needs a little different set up and they are all available.

You can use any spring/shock combo that fits the coupe. Same with the antiroll bars. Some people will tell you that the vert is too heavy for coupe springs. They are wrong. This has been argued and settled on several threads.

I personally have a 1990 'Vert with Eibach Prokits springs. They are the TII version. I also have Tokico Blue shocks. The prokits are a progressive rate spring that gives a much reduced tire impact over road irregularities. The springs get very firm once you get through the first inch or two of wheel travel. This setup was a huge upgrade from the stock springs and shocks. The drop was about 5/8" which looks very good without looking slammed. A further improvement over this would be adjustable struts, agx or tokicos.

Did that help?
thank you for your being thurough, but i did not ask what i SHOULD use but what CAN i use. I want to use RSR race springs and KYB AGX shocks with camber plates in the front, camber adjusting rod in the rear and rear steer eliminators. I was just trying to figure out if that will even bolt up. I had notice that the racing beat offered different suspension for the coupe and the vert but as far as i could tell the only difference was the spring rates. I like a firm ride. I plan to daily drive, auto-x, and track day my car with the occasional drift event if my dedicated drift car is out of action.

jesse
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Old May 10, 2006 | 12:12 AM
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Originally Posted by mmmjesse
well, tell me this. What i really need to know is what aftermarket suspension i can use for my 88 vert.
Rotary Performance (the one in Texas) offered a package that included Tokico adjustable shocks and some progressive springs. I put the package on my 1990 convertible. It was wonderful. The springs were soft enough to avoid rearranging my spine on the street. On the track, I could routinely out-corner 3rd gens.
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