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Old 01-16-08, 01:36 AM
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Confirmed Weights of Second Gens

While we already have a sticky dedicated to what trim levels came with what, I wanted to search for a list of weights by model and by year to see exactly what the differences are, since the brochures don't give enough detail.

Hopefully, we can compile a list like what Icemark's page has. If anyone has verifiable information regarding the weights that are not included, please fill them in and cite the source. All weights are for the 5-speed model.

S4's

1986 Weights (Taken from Mazda Brochure)
1986 Base: 2625
1986 Sport: ??? (Estimated at 2725 due to difference between 88 SE and 88 GTU)
1986 Luxury: ??? (Estimated at 2745 due to average between Sport estimation and GXL estimation)
1986 GXL: ??? (Estimated at 2765 due to difference between 88 SE and 88 GXL)

1987 Weights (Taken from Mazda Brochure)
1987 Base: 2700
1987 Sport: ??? (Estimated at 2800 due to difference between 88 SE and 88 GTU)
1987 Luxury/SE: ??? (Estimated at 2820 due to average between Sport estimation and GXL estimation)
1987 GXL: ??? (Estimated at 2840 due to difference between 88 SE and 88 GXL)
1987 TII: 2850

1988 Weights (Taken from Mazdamark.com)
1988 SE: 2655
1988 GTU: 2755
1988 GXL: 2795
1988 TII: 2845
1988 Vert: 3003
1988 10th AE: 2900

S5's

1989 Weights (Taken from Mazdamark.com)
1989 GTU: 2800
1989 GXL: 2881
1989 TII: 2987
1989 Vert: 3045
1989 GTUs: 2765

1990 Weights (Taken from Mazdamark.com)
1990 GTU: 2800
1990 GXL: 2881
1990 TII: 2987
1990 Vert: 3045
1990 GTUs: 2765

1991 Weights (Taken from Mazda Brochure)
1991 Coupe Base: 2787
1991 Coupe A Package: ??? (Estimated at 2843 due to estimated additional weight of leather upholstery)
1991 Coupe A & B Package: ??? (Estimated at 2868 due to difference between 89 GTU and 89 GXL)
1991 Turbo: 2987
1991 Turbo B Package: ??? (Estimated at 3012 due to difference between A package estimation and A & B package estimation)
1991 Vert: 3071

1992 Weights
1992 Vert: 3071 (Taken from 1991 Vert Weight)

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J/W what the difference is between these two cars?

1991 Turbo: 2987
1991 Turbo B Package: ???
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Originally Posted by LaMAr09
J/W what the difference is between these two cars?

1991 Turbo: 2987
1991 Turbo B Package: ???
Check the stickies, what did the cars come with thread, for differences in 1991.
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I always wondered how much these cars weighed, I mean being rotary, they should be light as heck!
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Wet or dry weights?

I'm guessing these are shipping weights, that these vehicles didn't ship with any or with very little gas in the tank.
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yeah, that would have to be dry.
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yea, quoted from the factory should be dry. But most weight comparisons between car models are done dry anyway. It's the specific car-to-car done by owners that are usually compared wet.
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Originally Posted by Mike0071
I always wondered how much these cars weighed, I mean being rotary, they should be light as heck!
The problem is, the rotary comes w/ so much paraphernalia for emissions that kinda negates the weight savings of it's small size. The main advantage of the rotary, from what I can tell, is not it's lightweight but it's low profile. It's lower in the car, allowing better handling (better roll center or something along those lines).
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I believe it's just better center of gravity as well as a better moment of inertia.
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On the door line of my TII it says 3150lbs. But here it say's 2850. Why is that? Is the weight stated on the car wet weight (oil, fuel, p/s fluid, etc)? Would all the fluids add an additional 200lbs?
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I took my NA S5 to a dyno day, and I got a weight of 3125 with me in it. Also, about 1/2 gallon of coolant, a 1/2 quart of oil, small roadside kit, and back seats:

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The S4 numbers are incorrect for the Sport, and remember the GTU added insulation and GXL style carpets, Turbo seats, and power mirrors that the Sport didn't have.

And the GX or Luxury was not a GXL. It didn't have power windows, it didn't have the AAS or LSD or even 15" wheels.

So the S4 numbers are mostly incorrect. You need to have factory window stickers to get the actual weights.
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The problem is, we don't have hard data for those models, just the ones that were taken off the Mazda Factory Brochures and your website, as well as rough estimations based of differences in similar models of another year.

The ones that were not estimated were taken off of the brochures stickied in this section or on your website.
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I still have the origional window sticker for my '86 Sport. If it has the weight stated, I'll post it later tonight!
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Originally Posted by Roen
The problem is, we don't have hard data for those models, just the ones that were taken off the Mazda Factory Brochures and your website, as well as rough estimations based of differences in similar models of another year.

The ones that were not estimated were taken off of the brochures stickied in this section or on your website.
The ones from my site are confirmed by multiple sources, such as the brochure and the window sticker, or multiple window stickers.

I have my old 87 sports window sticker but have never had access to another that I could confirm the weight with.
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my old 1988 n/a base model 2+2 weighted 1140 kg.
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Originally Posted by afro88
On the door line of my TII it says 3150lbs. But here it say's 2850. Why is that? Is the weight stated on the car wet weight (oil, fuel, p/s fluid, etc)? Would all the fluids add an additional 200lbs?
I believe that is the weight the car can HOLD. (2) 100lbs. Japanese ppl.
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Originally Posted by afro88
On the door line of my TII it says 3150lbs. But here it say's 2850. Why is that? Is the weight stated on the car wet weight (oil, fuel, p/s fluid, etc)? Would all the fluids add an additional 200lbs?
GVWR and Vehicle weight are two different things

The GVWR is the maximum with two passengers and cargo (to allowable limit) that the vehicle should weigh for road taxes (some states and countries bill your vehicle fees based on the load on the road).
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ah, learn something new.

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Ok- The origional window sticker states that the shipping weight is 2623 pounds.
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