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Cold start up backfiring, stalling.

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Old Feb 21, 2015 | 04:42 PM
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Angry Cold start up backfiring, stalling.

So as of recently the car starts after a prolonged winding over, like 10 seconds...

Revs with hesitation and unless I literally fight the car with blipping the trottle, it will die... and whilst blipping the throttle its having a f**king firework show out the exhaust pipe. Literally can smell the fuel... I have tried adjusting the idle mix with no effect when hot, doesn't alter the 750rpm idle at all.....

A good minute after this morning bullshit it settles for a 1500rpm steady idle and drops idle normally until the 750rpm idle when warmed fully.

The POS is a S4 NA manual, stock standard, Well maintained.

I'm leaning towards the tps.... Rotary shops here are $180 an hour of labour..... So i'll happily have a stab at this first.

When the engine has a tad of warmth in it or hot as hell, it starts instantly.

Any ideas?

Cheers.
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Old Feb 22, 2015 | 12:05 AM
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Okay, so if you keep it running after getting it to start; it all settles down after about a minute?

Does it drive fine after all of this is over with?

It sounds like there are probably 3 possibilities if it is just doing it on cold starts.

Vacuum leaks
Leaking fuel injector
No cold start assist/emissions on it (Not sure what all comes on Aussie s4 fc's)

First, if the rats nest is missing it will be difficult to get your car to idle/start correctly while cold.
If it is missing there is a chance whoever removed it fucked it up and you'll have a lot of fun stuff to fix.
If it is there there is a good chance the vac lines are old and need replaced. I know another one of your posts said it was rebuilt 20-30k miles ago. They may have replaced some of them, maybe not.

I'm not sure if a leaking fuel injector would cause that, actually. It just sounds like a possibility.

I would start with checking for vacuum leaks. That's usually the best thing to do with a stock rotary. Good luck.
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Old Feb 22, 2015 | 01:42 AM
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Check the connection on the sensor at the Bottom of the Rad.
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Old Feb 24, 2015 | 07:04 PM
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Following up on what misterstyx69 said; you might want to check the thermosensor on the back of the water pump. If that is bad or not connected it'll run terribly when cold.
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Old Feb 25, 2015 | 09:07 PM
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I shall check as soon as I finish up work, thanks a million, this would explain another issue if it's cooling related.... stupid car Thanks guys!
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Old Mar 2, 2015 | 01:45 AM
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So as it turns out, you guys rock, the rats nest was resting on the back of the thermosensor doobi watsi and had snapped the clip off.

Spliced a new one on and it runs like a gem! Also reset the timing and a few other things... never been better

In desperate need of a spastic port and brap tho....

Thanks guys!!!!!
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Old Mar 2, 2015 | 08:08 AM
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..ah..unclamped Doobi watsi!..

that'll do it every time..lol!
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Old Mar 2, 2015 | 08:31 AM
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Dingos did it.
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